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Doctor. Phil McCombs,
<i>Washington Post.</i>

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Thank you. Good to see you.

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Thank you
for taking the time.

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So, when you take them out,
you don't see anything?

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No, you don't see anything.

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I-I-I mean, of all the thousands
of second trimester abortions

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that I've done, I mean,
maybe I've seen half a dozen.

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But didn't it bother you
when you did?

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No, not particularly.

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It was the end product;

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a lifeless,
limp thing lying there.

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They have a human form.

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Oh, absolutely.

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I-I-I'm sorry.
I-I'm a little bit confused.

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Uh.

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First you said,
"All you see is bloody meat."

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Hm-mm.

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But now you're saying
you always knew it was a person.

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So Doctor,

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which one is it?

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<i>I didn't know what to say.</i>

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<i>I felt I was caught in a lie.</i>

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<i>So, you have to understand,
it was the '70s.</i>

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<i>The women's liberation
movement was exploding.</i>

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<i>Millions of women
were taking to the streets,</i>

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<i>and I got swept up in the way.</i>

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<i>saying now
that anything after eight weeks</i>

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<i>is murder, which I'm all for.</i>

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<i>I'm protesting the protesters.</i>

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<i>Proverbs 14:12.</i>

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<i>"There is a way
that seems right unto man,</i>

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<i>but in the end thereof,
the way is death."</i>

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<i>Well, sir,
I was in the parking lot</i>

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<i>and I saw some people's signs
and I said,</i>

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<i>"What's happening today?"
And they said,</i>

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<i>"They're protesting
the governor's decision."</i>

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<i>I don't want
a bunch of old white dudes</i>

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<i>regulating my body.</i>

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<i>I want us to stand up</i>

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<i>for the innocent lives
of children</i>

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<i>that are being aborted
in the womb,</i>

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<i>and to stop the bloodshed.</i>

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<i>I mean, in proportion,
12-year-olds can get abortions</i>

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<i>in public schools
and without parental consent.</i>

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<i>That's happened in the States.</i>

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<i>In Virginia,
if you have a baby,</i>

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<i>they put it on a table
and they ask the parents</i>

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<i>do you want it to live a lie.</i>

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My life.

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my decision!

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My life.

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my decision!

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You have to sacrifice your pawn
to save your queen.

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<i>It all started in my 20s.</i>

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<i>That's Ruth, my first love.</i>

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<i>See, my family was Jewish</i>

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<i>so I tried to get them to
warm up to her.</i>

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<i>But I had a better chance
of beating my dad at chess.</i>

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Check.

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Pawns are the soul of a game.

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You don't need the queen
to win the game.

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Checkmate.

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You have to sacrifice
for the greater good.

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How could I
have been so stupid.

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Maybe we can get married.

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No. Not like this. Not yet.

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You do know
I love you, right?

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I can't take care
of a baby right now.

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Oh, that's what you want.

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I can't tell
my family about this.

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My father won't help.

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What am I going to do,
Bernie?

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Honey, it's we, and we're
in this together, okay?

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Okay.

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<i>I would have married her,</i>

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<i>but she didn't want that.</i>

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<i>So, I gave her $500.
That way, nobody had to know.</i>

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<i>I never thought
I would lose Ruth.</i>

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<i>I became a doctor</i>

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<i>to make sure no girl ever
had to go through that again.</i>

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I will give no deadly medicine,
nor suggest any such counsel;

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nor give to a woman a pessary
to procure an abortion.

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<i>Like most doctors,</i>

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<i>I would violate
the Hippocratic oath.</i>

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<i>But saving women
was all that mattered.</i>

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<i>I know everyone has
their own version of events.</i>

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<i>But if you really want to know</i>

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<i>how abortion became legal
in our country,</i>

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<i>I will tell you the true story</i>

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<i>of Roe v. Wade.</i>

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<i>I wanted to get abortion
legalized across the country.</i>

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<i>Our master plan to do that</i>

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<i>started right here
in New York City.</i>

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<i>That's Betty Friedan,</i>

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<i>the leader of
the women's movement.</i>

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<i>You see, we needed her gals
if we had any chance of winning.</i>

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Ah-ha. Not again.
Mrs. Friedan.

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The Plaza's Oak Room
has a 61-year tradition

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of men's only lunches.

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Well, well, well.

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If it isn't the world-famous
author of <i>The Feminine Mystique,</i>

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Mrs. Betty Friedan.

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Mr. Larry Lader.

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<i>Larry was my best friend.</i>

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<i>He was the father
of the abortion movement.</i>

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<i>And he was also mentored
by Margaret Sanger,</i>

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<i>the founder of
Planned Parenthood.</i>

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<i>Now, here's the ugly truth.</i>

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<i>Margaret opened clinics
in poor Black neighborhoods</i>

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<i>and called it the Negro Project.</i>

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The mass of Negroes,
particularly in the South,

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still breed carelessly
and disastrously.

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The result that the increase
among Negroes,

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more than among whites,

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is that portion
of the population

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least intelligent and fit.

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<i>Her goal was to reduce</i>

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<i>the Black population,</i>

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<i>either through birth control
or sterilization.</i>

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<i>She literally wanted to stop
Black people</i>

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<i>from having babies altogether.</i>

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<i>And Larry continued her work
by launching an organization</i>

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<i>to legalize abortion,</i>

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<i>and wrote the first nationwide
book on the topic.</i>

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Have you happened
to read my book?

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Did you prance over here

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to have me fawn over
your vanity project?

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Cyril here works for the ACLU.

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We can have him sue the Plaza
if you like.

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A girl should
not expect special privileges

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because of her sex,

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but neither should she adjust
to prejudice or discrimination.

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I-I'm Bernard.

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An obstetrician officially,

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until they get the laws
repealed.

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Cyril is also
the lead counsel

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for Planned Parenthood.

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So, why are you boys
so worked up about abortion?

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Well,
Cyril is gonna head legal,

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Bernie, medical.

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I would like him
to open up a clinic.

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Larry, listen,
I've told you a million times.

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I'm not gonna ruin
my reputation over this.

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The women need your help.

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Opening a clinic
will land him in hot water

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like Vuitch.

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Exactly. And I'm
much better to you out of jail.

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A bunch of disorganized men

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are gonna rid this country
of abortion restriction?

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No, no, no.
We're not disorganized, okay.

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- If Bernie...
- We're looking for

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a pregnant girl to
challenge the abortion laws.

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If New York falls,
the country falls.

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If that doesn't work,
we'll lobby the legislature.

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I guess I can provide
medical research

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to prove our opinion.

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We wanna rally
behind the women's movement

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to get the TV media on board.

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So that's why you need me.

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We need to continue
Margaret Sanger's work.

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Oh, well.

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Thank you so much
for this explanation.

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But abortion
is really not our focus.

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You're gonna regret it

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when you see Gloria Steinem
and Bella Abzug

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hopping on board
and everybody else.

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You're our first choice.

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Yeah? Why?

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Because you're the best.

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<i>Betty came on board</i>

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<i>and brought
her core of feminists.</i>

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<i>We all launched NARAL together,</i>

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<i>the National Association
to Repeal Abortion Laws.</i>

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Did I tell you?

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Did I tell you?

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Looks like I started
a revolution.

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I mean... I told you,
you should open a clinic.

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Well, you know, you're probably
right about the clinic.

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But listen, I-I gotta
look after Adele and Joey, so.

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Are you not seeing this?

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Yeah, but do you really think

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we should go for full repeal?

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I say we go for
abortion on demand!

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Yeah.

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Listen, come on.
We don't need to get greedy.

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Can't we just do this for health
or if a woman gets raped?

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You know, wouldn't it
just be better for that?

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We don't need to go for
abortion on demand.

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No, no, no.

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We have to go
for the full enchilada.

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Otherwise, we'll get nothing.

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Cyril's correct.

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We can't turn a woman's body
into a business negotiation.

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<i>You just won
a fabulous trip to London.</i>

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<i>It's worth over $1,000.
Congratulations, sir.</i>

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Your dinner's in the oven,
if you wanna heat it up.

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Thank you, sweetheart.

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Like always!

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Oh, come on, not again.

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Eighteen-hour days?

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What's her name?

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Betty Friedan.

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Come on, you can't take a joke?

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What you do isn't funny.

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I don't understand. A woman
doesn't support women's rights?

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I mean, you should see
what they go through.

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Then go be with them.

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Women are dying.
I'm saving lives.

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I just miss you, that's all.

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Okay, you win.

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<i>The New York State Senate
today passed one of the nation's</i>

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<i>most sweeping
abortion control bills.</i>

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<i>Aggregates
and enemies of the bill</i>

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<i>brought tremendous pressures
to bear on legislators</i>

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<i>on the emotional issue,</i>

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<i>and the drama was summed up
late yesterday</i>

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<i>in the State Assembly</i>

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<i>when one man's vote
made the difference.</i>

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<i>As New York's Assembly
passed a bill</i>

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<i>legalizing abortions
for any reason,</i>

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<i>up to the 24th week
of a pregnancy,</i>

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<i>the decision to be made between
a woman and her physician.</i>

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<i>But then it became apparent
that the bill would fail</i>

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<i>unless one vote was changed.</i>

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<i>But I cannot,
in good conscience,</i>

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<i>stand here and thwart the
obvious majority of this House.</i>

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<i>I therefore request you,
Mr. Speaker,</i>

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<i>to change my negative vote
to an affirmative vote.</i>

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<i>Completely devastated,</i>

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<i>the pro-life senator,
Earl Brydges,</i>

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<i>read the Diary of the Unborn.</i>

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<i>"My parents don't know it yet,</i>

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<i>"I'm as small
as the seed of an apple.</i>

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<i>"But it's me already.</i>

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<i>"I'm to be a girl.</i>

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<i>"I shall have blonde hair
and blue eyes.</i>

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<i>"October 19th.</i>

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<i>"Some say
I'm not a real person yet,</i>

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<i>"that only my mother exists.</i>

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00:13:01,349 --> 00:13:04,085
<i>"But I am a real person.</i>

241
00:13:11,359 --> 00:13:12,693
<i>"December 13th.</i>

242
00:13:16,597 --> 00:13:20,167
<i>"I'm just about able to see.</i>

243
00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:22,870
<i>"It's-it's dark around me.</i>

244
00:13:26,841 --> 00:13:28,543
<i>"But what I want
more than anything.</i>

245
00:13:32,514 --> 00:13:35,149
<i>"is to see my mommy.</i>

246
00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,022
<i>"December 24th.</i>

247
00:13:47,228 --> 00:13:50,698
<i>"I wonder if mommy.</i>

248
00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:57,238
<i>"hears the whispering
of my heart.</i>

249
00:14:00,241 --> 00:14:04,044
<i>"It beats so evenly.</i>

250
00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:16,558
<i>"October 28th... December 28th.</i>

251
00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:27,234
<i>Today my mommy killed me."</i>

252
00:14:36,411 --> 00:14:38,812
<i>The win shocked our opposition.</i>

253
00:14:38,846 --> 00:14:40,080
<i>I mean, no one thought
we would get abortion</i>

254
00:14:40,114 --> 00:14:42,716
<i>legalized in New York.</i>

255
00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:45,620
<i>Especially since the Catholics
controlled everything there.</i>

256
00:14:49,357 --> 00:14:51,426
How does Rockefeller
appoint Cyril Means

257
00:14:51,459 --> 00:14:52,893
to head this committee?

258
00:14:52,927 --> 00:14:54,329
It's a conflict of interest.

259
00:14:54,362 --> 00:14:56,431
He works for Planned Parenthood.

260
00:14:56,464 --> 00:14:58,667
Politicians
are now playing God,

261
00:14:58,699 --> 00:15:02,537
deciding on who has the right
to live and to die.

262
00:15:02,571 --> 00:15:06,240
This is Dr. Mildred Jefferson,
she is the first,

263
00:15:06,273 --> 00:15:09,076
uh, woman to graduate...

264
00:15:09,109 --> 00:15:11,078
What he's trying to say is

265
00:15:11,111 --> 00:15:15,015
I am the first Negro woman
to graduate Harvard Medical.

266
00:15:15,049 --> 00:15:17,718
Ellen,
I run a pro-life women's group.

267
00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,554
We, ah, tried to fight this
in Albany.

268
00:15:20,821 --> 00:15:22,457
Feminism is destructive.

269
00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:24,058
I have no philosophical

270
00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:27,429
or intellectual
appreciation for it.

271
00:15:27,462 --> 00:15:28,630
Oh, we're not feminists.

272
00:15:28,663 --> 00:15:30,699
And they used to be
against abortion.

273
00:15:30,731 --> 00:15:32,601
It's not about
women's rights either.

274
00:15:32,634 --> 00:15:33,968
Would you like to head up

275
00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:36,804
a right to life group
that I'm starting?

276
00:15:36,837 --> 00:15:39,139
I could write a few letters.

277
00:15:39,173 --> 00:15:40,508
There's more
that needs to be done.

278
00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:43,445
I could attend some rallies.

279
00:15:43,478 --> 00:15:46,715
Really? That's it?

280
00:15:46,747 --> 00:15:49,551
This will be the National
Right to Life Committee.

281
00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:52,253
Father, I am
still completing my residency

282
00:15:52,286 --> 00:15:54,154
at Boston University.

283
00:15:54,188 --> 00:15:57,091
I will not give them
any more excuses.

284
00:15:57,124 --> 00:15:59,260
I never heard
Rosa Parks give excuses.

285
00:16:45,873 --> 00:16:48,510
I'm sorry about Ellen,
all right.

286
00:16:48,543 --> 00:16:49,977
She's from Long Island.

287
00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:51,945
I will not be used
for the color of my skin.

288
00:16:51,979 --> 00:16:54,482
I do what I do on principle,
like Don Quixote.

289
00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,489
Look, first they came
after the Jews,

290
00:17:01,523 --> 00:17:05,327
but we weren't Jewish,
so we didn't say anything.

291
00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:08,496
And then they came
after the mentally deficient.

292
00:17:08,530 --> 00:17:12,966
But we weren't deficient
so we did nothing.

293
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,602
And now they're comin'
after the unborn.

294
00:17:18,005 --> 00:17:20,608
and so you're gonna do nothing?

295
00:17:24,546 --> 00:17:27,214
That's a low blow.

296
00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,116
No one is coming for the unborn.

297
00:17:31,852 --> 00:17:35,724
This is akin to slavery,
and you know the topic.

298
00:17:37,726 --> 00:17:39,093
Because I'm Black?

299
00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:42,530
Yes.

300
00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:48,035
This can't come to you
as a shock.

301
00:17:48,068 --> 00:17:49,337
Dr. Haven,

302
00:17:49,371 --> 00:17:50,839
perhaps the board
could consider...

303
00:17:50,871 --> 00:17:52,607
The decision has been made.

304
00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,510
I've been in medicine
for 20 years.

305
00:17:55,543 --> 00:17:59,046
Dr. McConnell will be
our new chief resident,

306
00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:00,448
and that's final.

307
00:18:00,482 --> 00:18:03,852
You've chosen Dr. McConnell.

308
00:18:03,884 --> 00:18:06,220
The man can barely get
through an appendectomy.

309
00:18:06,253 --> 00:18:08,088
He's a fine doctor.

310
00:18:08,122 --> 00:18:10,792
This position
is way too precious

311
00:18:10,825 --> 00:18:13,595
to be wasted on a woman.

312
00:18:18,132 --> 00:18:19,900
I'll get it.

313
00:18:24,004 --> 00:18:26,073
Professor Robert Byrn.

314
00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,410
Father McHugh
said you were gonna call.

315
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,145
There is not much time,

316
00:18:31,178 --> 00:18:33,882
and Jim said
you wanted to help out.

317
00:18:33,914 --> 00:18:35,717
Well, supposedly

318
00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:38,285
you're the best
constitutional mind he knows.

319
00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:39,587
The only one he knows.

320
00:18:41,823 --> 00:18:44,759
"Any society that's willing to
give up a little liberty

321
00:18:44,793 --> 00:18:46,994
to gain a little security

322
00:18:47,027 --> 00:18:49,464
will deserve neither
and lose both."

323
00:18:49,497 --> 00:18:51,499
Benjamin Franklin.

324
00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:55,102
Susan B. Anthony
said about abortion,

325
00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:58,105
"Awful guilty is the woman
who commits the deed."

326
00:18:58,138 --> 00:19:00,508
No one will be passing a law
to kill the unborn.

327
00:19:00,542 --> 00:19:03,277
Our foundations
are built on natural law.

328
00:19:03,311 --> 00:19:04,479
Are you sure about that?

329
00:19:05,946 --> 00:19:08,349
People can't humanize
what they can't see.

330
00:19:08,383 --> 00:19:10,685
Physicians need to
balance the discussion.

331
00:19:12,654 --> 00:19:15,423
But in order to win,

332
00:19:15,457 --> 00:19:17,659
we need to take God
out of the argument.

333
00:19:17,692 --> 00:19:19,427
Nathanson's clinics
are performing

334
00:19:19,461 --> 00:19:21,463
a thousand abortions per week.

335
00:19:21,496 --> 00:19:22,797
Nathanson?

336
00:19:22,831 --> 00:19:25,165
Dr. Bernard Nathanson,
the obstetrician.

337
00:19:25,199 --> 00:19:27,134
The self-proclaimed
savior of women.

338
00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:29,269
Sounds more like
an abortionist than a doctor.

339
00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:31,339
The Abortion King,
they call him.

340
00:19:31,372 --> 00:19:34,442
That's why I'm sacrificing
my time and taking up the fight.

341
00:19:34,476 --> 00:19:39,146
I'm a woman.
You have choices.

342
00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:41,114
I understand.

343
00:19:41,148 --> 00:19:43,016
You need to take care
of your children.

344
00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:46,153
No, we don't have any children.

345
00:19:51,058 --> 00:19:53,026
We tried.

346
00:20:03,237 --> 00:20:04,405
So glad you're here.

347
00:20:04,439 --> 00:20:06,841
Look at this.
Have you seen that?

348
00:20:08,443 --> 00:20:11,679
"An unmarried
Catholic law professor."

349
00:20:11,713 --> 00:20:12,747
<i>Now, Larry's strategy</i>

350
00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:15,249
<i>was to always
vilify the Catholics.</i>

351
00:20:15,282 --> 00:20:17,184
<i>So, every time
we leaked a story,</i>

352
00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,153
<i>we made sure the writer
identified the bad guys</i>

353
00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:22,390
<i>specifically as Catholics.</i>

354
00:20:22,423 --> 00:20:24,091
I'm always described that way.

355
00:20:24,124 --> 00:20:26,494
You never see them identify
Betty Friedan "a married Jew,"

356
00:20:26,528 --> 00:20:28,363
but us, always "a Catholic."

357
00:20:29,898 --> 00:20:31,231
Could be worse.

358
00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:34,268
Come on.

359
00:20:34,302 --> 00:20:36,236
We're gonna go in here
and over to the left.

360
00:20:56,123 --> 00:20:57,257
Where are the graves?

361
00:20:59,928 --> 00:21:01,829
Where are the names
carved in stone?

362
00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,935
Where do we go to pray?

363
00:21:06,968 --> 00:21:08,135
I don't know, Father.

364
00:21:08,168 --> 00:21:09,804
But I do know
that they will never stop

365
00:21:09,837 --> 00:21:12,307
the religious persecution.

366
00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:14,742
Preaching on Sundays
isn't saving babies.

367
00:21:17,512 --> 00:21:19,714
"The fate of unborn millions
will now depend,

368
00:21:19,747 --> 00:21:22,050
under God,
on the courage of this army."

369
00:21:22,082 --> 00:21:23,318
George Washington.

370
00:21:24,786 --> 00:21:26,921
We need to take God
out of the argument.

371
00:21:26,955 --> 00:21:28,990
Your father was a minister.

372
00:21:29,023 --> 00:21:30,157
Yes.

373
00:21:33,828 --> 00:21:35,763
Life begins at conception.

374
00:21:36,998 --> 00:21:39,367
As a physician, I know this.

375
00:21:40,868 --> 00:21:42,269
And so does the Scraper.

376
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,009
The Scraper?

377
00:21:48,042 --> 00:21:49,777
That's what they call
Dr. Nathanson.

378
00:21:56,818 --> 00:21:57,852
I'm in.

379
00:22:04,659 --> 00:22:07,160
I'll have someone
from the Right to Life office

380
00:22:07,194 --> 00:22:09,296
get it up and running
until you can take over.

381
00:22:10,498 --> 00:22:11,666
God bless you.

382
00:22:17,005 --> 00:22:18,673
You know,
it's cheaper to abort a baby

383
00:22:18,706 --> 00:22:20,675
than it is
to keep it on welfare.

384
00:22:23,143 --> 00:22:24,846
Now that it's in the courts,

385
00:22:24,879 --> 00:22:27,382
the interests of the baby will
be taken into consideration.

386
00:22:29,484 --> 00:22:31,686
And now that it is legal
in New York,

387
00:22:31,719 --> 00:22:34,389
Larry really wants me
to open up a clinic.

388
00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:36,256
Does he want to pay
our mortgage?

389
00:22:48,036 --> 00:22:49,236
<i>Larry was right,</i>

390
00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:51,005
<i>and from this point forward,</i>

391
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:54,342
<i>we were able to carry out
over 70,000 abortions</i>

392
00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:58,846
<i>throughout my career,
making over $20 million.</i>

393
00:23:01,683 --> 00:23:04,686
Maybe this is
worth your reputation.

394
00:23:08,288 --> 00:23:09,891
I guess they could
use your help.

395
00:23:13,928 --> 00:23:16,064
If you're gonna do this,

396
00:23:16,097 --> 00:23:18,032
I need you to do
one thing for me.

397
00:23:18,066 --> 00:23:18,966
Tell me.

398
00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:21,302
Win!

399
00:23:25,073 --> 00:23:26,441
<i>Now
that my business was booming,</i>

400
00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:27,875
<i>I didn't have
enough hours in the day</i>

401
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:30,745
<i>to take care of all the girls
who wanted abortions.</i>

402
00:23:30,778 --> 00:23:33,246
<i>So, we had to go to London
to learn a faster procedure.</i>

403
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,784
Uh, today, I'll be performing
32 procedures.

404
00:23:36,818 --> 00:23:39,053
Thirty-two in one day?
Impressive.

405
00:23:39,087 --> 00:23:41,055
Yeah,
it's much more civilized now.

406
00:23:41,089 --> 00:23:42,857
What is that machine there
used for?

407
00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:44,559
Well, this is
a suction machine.

408
00:23:44,592 --> 00:23:48,362
The procedure is called
suction curettage.

409
00:23:48,396 --> 00:23:51,899
With this, I can perform
an abortion in three minutes.

410
00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:53,601
That's impossible.
You can't do that.

411
00:23:53,634 --> 00:23:56,437
You can thank the Chinese
for this.

412
00:23:56,471 --> 00:23:57,872
This and firecrackers.

413
00:23:57,905 --> 00:24:00,975
Up until how many months
can you use this machine?

414
00:24:01,008 --> 00:24:02,076
Four and a half,

415
00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:03,644
no problem.

416
00:24:03,678 --> 00:24:06,614
Dilation and evacuation
up to six and a half,

417
00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:08,583
but some doctors
even more than that.

418
00:24:12,019 --> 00:24:13,087
Now, if you're looking
for a nice shirt

419
00:24:13,121 --> 00:24:14,155
while you're in London,

420
00:24:14,188 --> 00:24:16,224
I can recommend
MacCulloch and Wallis.

421
00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:20,394
They get the cut just right.
It is your body after all.

422
00:24:21,596 --> 00:24:22,764
One thing to be careful of
though is,

423
00:24:22,797 --> 00:24:26,000
their guy is a little clumsy
with the needle,

424
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:28,803
but who cares
if it stings a bit, hmm?

425
00:24:28,836 --> 00:24:30,772
Ah, suction machine, please?

426
00:24:30,805 --> 00:24:32,006
You got it.

427
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,274
The fetus is quartered.

428
00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:36,811
The torso disemboweled.

429
00:24:36,844 --> 00:24:40,948
The head is then crushed
and extracted in parts.

430
00:24:40,982 --> 00:24:44,585
Then the placenta
is scraped off the womb.

431
00:24:44,619 --> 00:24:47,688
The last step of dilation
and evacuation is,

432
00:24:47,722 --> 00:24:49,624
you must reconstruct the fetus

433
00:24:49,657 --> 00:24:52,927
to make sure all the vital parts
have been removed.

434
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,795
Thank you.

435
00:24:56,664 --> 00:24:59,433
Look, if you follow
the New York model,

436
00:24:59,467 --> 00:25:01,702
you're gonna be able to
maximize patients. Okay?

437
00:25:01,736 --> 00:25:02,770
If you need any help...

438
00:25:02,804 --> 00:25:04,772
We have regional centers.

439
00:25:04,806 --> 00:25:07,441
Planned Parenthood has centers
all over the country.

440
00:25:07,475 --> 00:25:08,509
Yeah.

441
00:25:08,543 --> 00:25:10,511
Thank you, gentlemen.

442
00:25:17,852 --> 00:25:19,487
We found a girl in Texas.

443
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,190
Our gal at Planned Parenthood
Dallas, Ginny Whitehill,

444
00:25:22,223 --> 00:25:23,558
organized the whole thing.

445
00:25:23,591 --> 00:25:25,126
Did you get a lawyer
in Texas, too?

446
00:25:25,159 --> 00:25:27,495
A woman, and this is where
it gets good.

447
00:25:27,528 --> 00:25:28,996
Ginny found the perfect one.

448
00:25:29,030 --> 00:25:30,364
No.

449
00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:33,401
Young, inexperienced,
and in need of guidance.

450
00:25:33,434 --> 00:25:35,369
And it gets better.

451
00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,338
She works for us.

452
00:25:37,371 --> 00:25:38,406
What are you talking about?

453
00:25:38,439 --> 00:25:39,340
For Planned Parenthood.

454
00:25:39,373 --> 00:25:40,975
No.

455
00:25:41,008 --> 00:25:43,878
She even volunteers
for your group, NOW.

456
00:25:54,722 --> 00:25:57,892
Henry's a civil rights lawyer
but he does adoptions, too.

457
00:25:57,925 --> 00:25:59,927
That's how we found the girl.

458
00:25:59,961 --> 00:26:01,729
Norma McCorvey.
She's perfect.

459
00:26:01,762 --> 00:26:02,930
She was a runaway,

460
00:26:02,964 --> 00:26:04,532
<i>she became an alcoholic,</i>

461
00:26:04,565 --> 00:26:06,601
<i>a drug addict, a lesbian.</i>

462
00:26:06,634 --> 00:26:09,203
<i>She has a criminal record
and a ninth-grade education.</i>

463
00:26:09,237 --> 00:26:11,906
She is just
what you're looking for.

464
00:26:11,939 --> 00:26:13,875
Ginny, this is great.

465
00:26:13,908 --> 00:26:17,278
We need to legalize this
across the country in one swoop.

466
00:26:17,312 --> 00:26:20,514
Fighting state by state
will take forever.

467
00:26:20,548 --> 00:26:21,782
And the lawyers?

468
00:26:21,816 --> 00:26:23,918
Linda Coffee
and Sarah Weddington.

469
00:26:23,951 --> 00:26:25,286
<i>Henry McCluskey was the guy</i>

470
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,121
<i>who not only found
the pregnant girl,</i>

471
00:26:27,154 --> 00:26:28,723
<i>but the lawyers, too.</i>

472
00:26:28,756 --> 00:26:30,558
They are super excited.

473
00:26:30,591 --> 00:26:32,426
Plus.

474
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:34,161
they desperately needed a job.

475
00:26:36,097 --> 00:26:37,298
<i>Planned Parenthood</i>

476
00:26:37,332 --> 00:26:39,567
<i>needed Texas lawyers
they could control.</i>

477
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,435
<i>And they wanted women.</i>

478
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,538
<i>Sarah and Linda couldn't
get hired anywhere else.</i>

479
00:26:44,572 --> 00:26:46,574
<i>They were the perfect pawns.</i>

480
00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:48,776
You're gonna make
a constitutional claim.

481
00:26:48,809 --> 00:26:50,312
How are we gonna do that?

482
00:26:50,345 --> 00:26:52,947
Between Planned Parenthood,
NARAL, and NOW,

483
00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:54,248
you got a lot of help.

484
00:26:54,282 --> 00:26:56,050
And Norma's background?

485
00:26:56,083 --> 00:26:58,219
Are we worried
that's gonna affect the case?

486
00:26:58,252 --> 00:27:00,655
We'll give her a pseudonym.
Call her Jane Roe.

487
00:27:00,688 --> 00:27:02,757
<i>Calling Norma Jane Roe,</i>

488
00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:05,092
<i>made sure our opponents
would never be able to</i>

489
00:27:05,126 --> 00:27:08,729
<i>find out who she was;
never be able to question her,</i>

490
00:27:08,763 --> 00:27:11,933
<i>and never, ever be able to
find out the truth.</i>

491
00:27:11,966 --> 00:27:13,567
That's genius.

492
00:27:13,601 --> 00:27:15,337
That way, no one will
ever know about her past.

493
00:27:15,370 --> 00:27:16,904
I'll oversee the case.

494
00:27:16,938 --> 00:27:19,408
I'll bring in Harriet Pilpel
from Planned Parenthood.

495
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,143
She's the country's
top constitutional expert.

496
00:27:22,176 --> 00:27:23,678
This is going to
the Supreme Court?

497
00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,046
We'll make sure of it.

498
00:27:26,447 --> 00:27:29,684
But, I-I've never even
tried a case.

499
00:27:29,717 --> 00:27:32,387
Don't worry, we have.

500
00:27:35,189 --> 00:27:36,958
<i>Larry liked
to go to St. Croix.</i>

501
00:27:36,991 --> 00:27:38,427
<i>He called them
working vacations.</i>

502
00:27:38,459 --> 00:27:39,627
Okay, Bernie.

503
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:40,494
<i>He said that's where</i>

504
00:27:40,528 --> 00:27:41,963
<i>he got his best ideas.</i>

505
00:27:41,996 --> 00:27:43,332
- <i>This time, I went with him.</i>
- Look, they do need us.

506
00:27:43,365 --> 00:27:44,665
<i>We were going to celebrate</i>

507
00:27:44,699 --> 00:27:46,133
- <i>winning New York.</i>
- Here's the strategy, okay.

508
00:27:46,167 --> 00:27:48,636
First, we have to get
the media on our side.

509
00:27:48,669 --> 00:27:50,137
That's a good idea, okay.

510
00:27:50,171 --> 00:27:52,341
Second,
they need to know

511
00:27:52,374 --> 00:27:54,175
there's no life at conception.

512
00:27:54,208 --> 00:27:57,144
Yeah, but I'm not really sure
that's accurate.

513
00:27:58,347 --> 00:27:59,213
Well, you're a doctor.

514
00:27:59,246 --> 00:28:00,382
We're gonna need testimonials.

515
00:28:00,415 --> 00:28:02,883
What about
what the other experts say?

516
00:28:02,917 --> 00:28:05,219
We'll make sure no one's gonna
hear what they have to say.

517
00:28:05,252 --> 00:28:07,555
<i>I couldn't
believe what he just said.</i>

518
00:28:07,588 --> 00:28:10,157
<i>Larry wanted me
to bury the truth.</i>

519
00:28:10,191 --> 00:28:14,161
<i>I was really conflicted but.
I went along with it anyway.</i>

520
00:28:14,195 --> 00:28:15,629
Right? Listen.

521
00:28:15,663 --> 00:28:19,200
Most important, every revolution
needs a villain, okay?

522
00:28:19,233 --> 00:28:21,403
Whether it's a dictator
or a king.

523
00:28:21,436 --> 00:28:24,205
People need to see a face,
something to rebel against.

524
00:28:24,238 --> 00:28:26,974
It's easier for them
to perceive.

525
00:28:27,008 --> 00:28:30,745
We need to narrow the focus,
okay,

526
00:28:30,778 --> 00:28:33,348
identify it with a person

527
00:28:33,382 --> 00:28:36,250
or a small group of shadowy,
powerful people.

528
00:28:38,052 --> 00:28:39,053
Don't you see?

529
00:28:40,755 --> 00:28:43,057
In our country there's been
one group associated with

530
00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:44,326
reactionary politics,

531
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,260
behind-the-scenes
manipulations,

532
00:28:46,293 --> 00:28:47,928
and backward ideas.

533
00:28:47,962 --> 00:28:50,264
Wait, not the Catholics again?

534
00:28:50,297 --> 00:28:52,566
<i>Oh, well.
What did I really care?</i>

535
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,835
<i>I mean, although my parents
were Jewish,</i>

536
00:28:54,869 --> 00:28:56,737
<i>I was more of an atheist.</i>

537
00:28:56,771 --> 00:28:59,206
Of course, the Catholics.
Yes!

538
00:29:02,777 --> 00:29:04,912
Norma.

539
00:29:04,945 --> 00:29:06,714
good to see you again.

540
00:29:06,747 --> 00:29:07,715
Come here.

541
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:12,286
This is Sarah.

542
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,863
So, you're seeking
an abortion?

543
00:29:22,897 --> 00:29:25,566
Yeah, you know
where I can get one?

544
00:29:27,436 --> 00:29:30,905
I'm so sorry, I do not.

545
00:29:39,314 --> 00:29:40,714
How about an illegal one?

546
00:29:40,748 --> 00:29:42,216
No!

547
00:29:42,249 --> 00:29:43,284
<i>Okay, well, Sarah did know</i>

548
00:29:43,318 --> 00:29:44,618
<i>where to get an illegal one.</i>

549
00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:46,555
<i>She had one in Mexico.</i>

550
00:29:46,587 --> 00:29:48,789
<i>But we needed them to say
whatever it took</i>

551
00:29:48,823 --> 00:29:50,791
<i>to get her to come on board.</i>

552
00:29:50,825 --> 00:29:55,062
<i>It was for the greater good.
This was lie number one.</i>

553
00:29:55,096 --> 00:29:56,964
Why the heck not?

554
00:29:56,997 --> 00:29:59,300
Because it's dangerous.

555
00:29:59,334 --> 00:30:00,935
What am I even doing here then?

556
00:30:00,968 --> 00:30:03,070
Mr. McCluskey said
I could trust y'all.

557
00:30:03,104 --> 00:30:04,605
He's great.

558
00:30:04,638 --> 00:30:07,342
We'll still consult
with McCluskey, okay?

559
00:30:07,375 --> 00:30:09,910
I can't be
having no baby, okay?

560
00:30:09,944 --> 00:30:13,415
I got no job, no husband,
no home.

561
00:30:13,448 --> 00:30:15,417
You don't wanna to
put your child up for adoption?

562
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:18,052
No, I can't
go through that again.

563
00:30:21,021 --> 00:30:22,957
Thank you.

564
00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:25,960
How did you become pregnant
in the first place?

565
00:30:25,993 --> 00:30:26,994
Can I?

566
00:30:31,466 --> 00:30:34,969
Norma, if we are gonna
represent you,

567
00:30:35,002 --> 00:30:38,172
we need to know everything.

568
00:30:38,205 --> 00:30:40,542
Did anything bad happen?

569
00:30:40,575 --> 00:30:43,978
I was, uhm, raped.

570
00:30:44,011 --> 00:30:46,013
<i>Norma may have been suicidal,</i>

571
00:30:46,046 --> 00:30:49,384
<i>but she admitted years later,
she lied about being raped.</i>

572
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,419
Raped?

573
00:30:53,154 --> 00:30:55,156
I'm so sorry.

574
00:30:55,189 --> 00:30:56,525
No woman should ever
have to give birth

575
00:30:56,558 --> 00:30:58,360
to her attacker's child.

576
00:30:58,393 --> 00:31:01,195
Hmm, is the case
gonna be over in enough time?

577
00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:02,531
That's why I'm doing this.

578
00:31:02,564 --> 00:31:05,299
Yes, of course.

579
00:31:05,333 --> 00:31:06,368
<i>Lie number two.</i>

580
00:31:09,003 --> 00:31:11,339
We will do our best to win.

581
00:31:11,373 --> 00:31:14,742
So, what happens
during an abortion?

582
00:31:14,775 --> 00:31:16,810
Does the baby go back?

583
00:31:16,844 --> 00:31:20,348
Like when John Wayne
aborts a mission?

584
00:31:20,382 --> 00:31:22,683
Well, there is no baby.

585
00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:24,218
<i>And ladies and gentlemen,</i>

586
00:31:24,251 --> 00:31:26,588
<i>lie number three.</i>

587
00:31:26,621 --> 00:31:29,056
It's like removing
a piece of tissue.

588
00:31:29,089 --> 00:31:30,525
The baby comes later, Norma.

589
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,593
Much later.

590
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:34,529
Like passing a period.

591
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:39,434
So, y'all got
a lot of experience with this.

592
00:31:39,467 --> 00:31:41,202
We're going to file in Dallas.

593
00:31:41,235 --> 00:31:42,537
But I live in Houston.

594
00:31:42,571 --> 00:31:45,340
I know, but I clerked for
Judge Hughes in Dallas

595
00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:47,676
and I know her position
on the topic.

596
00:31:47,708 --> 00:31:51,346
We just need you to read
these papers and sign.

597
00:31:51,379 --> 00:31:53,847
And then, we'll just-we'll
get everything going.

598
00:31:53,881 --> 00:31:55,383
It's all right.
I trust y'all.

599
00:32:09,497 --> 00:32:11,732
Get out! Get out!

600
00:32:14,268 --> 00:32:16,304
Wait.

601
00:32:16,338 --> 00:32:17,606
wait.

602
00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:23,978
They lied to me.

603
00:32:24,011 --> 00:32:26,113
They told me
we would have won by now.

604
00:32:28,249 --> 00:32:31,785
Call them!
Tell them to get McCluskey!

605
00:32:32,853 --> 00:32:33,988
<i>Obviously,</i>

606
00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:35,423
<i>the case didn't
get to court in time.</i>

607
00:32:40,261 --> 00:32:42,896
Ha-ha! Mr. Floyd,
welcome to Dallas.

608
00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:44,131
- How's the Governor?
- He's still reeling

609
00:32:44,164 --> 00:32:45,966
over your Lee Harvey Oswald
debacle.

610
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,737
Well, he should have appointed
me instead of Sarah Hughes.

611
00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:49,803
You'll want to hear this.

612
00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:51,573
Two young lawyers just filed...

613
00:32:51,606 --> 00:32:54,942
Whoop dee doo,
goody for them.

614
00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:57,312
In Judge Hughes' court,
and it's about...

615
00:32:57,345 --> 00:33:01,915
Oh, let me guess, abortion!

616
00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:06,020
You know,
that Sarah Hughes, she...

617
00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:07,489
anything to get at me.

618
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:10,190
So.

619
00:33:10,224 --> 00:33:14,128
So, these gals,
fresh out of UT Law,

620
00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:16,765
are bringin'
an abortion case to Texas.

621
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,269
Thank you.
I needed a good laugh.

622
00:33:22,304 --> 00:33:23,804
You should be worried, Hank!

623
00:33:23,837 --> 00:33:26,874
About what? Prissy feminists
looking to stir up the pot?

624
00:33:26,907 --> 00:33:28,443
Tolle, come in here.
You need to hear this.

625
00:33:28,476 --> 00:33:30,345
They're causing a ruckus
all over the country.

626
00:33:30,378 --> 00:33:32,314
Any decent lawyer

627
00:33:32,347 --> 00:33:34,783
can try this case
with his eyes closed.

628
00:33:34,815 --> 00:33:37,686
You-you-you argue the case.

629
00:33:37,719 --> 00:33:40,455
Show these girls some good
old-fashioned Texas morals.

630
00:33:40,488 --> 00:33:41,889
It's not about morals, Hank!

631
00:33:41,922 --> 00:33:43,325
Well, that's just ignorant.

632
00:33:43,358 --> 00:33:46,026
Why don't we legalize murder
while we're at it?

633
00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:47,629
Who's this Jane Roe anyway?

634
00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:54,336
Well, she's healthy,
so the baby can't kill her.

635
00:33:54,369 --> 00:33:57,472
So, she can't have
an abortion in Texas.

636
00:33:57,505 --> 00:34:00,207
Why doesn't she move
to New York City?

637
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,744
They're gonna bring up
some women's rights violations.

638
00:34:02,777 --> 00:34:05,547
A woman's right
to kill her own baby?

639
00:34:08,683 --> 00:34:09,718
You're right.

640
00:34:11,285 --> 00:34:12,587
There's no way
anyone with a conscience

641
00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:13,822
could legalize
killin' a child.

642
00:34:13,854 --> 00:34:16,090
And that's why
I prosecuted Jack Ruby

643
00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:18,158
for killing Lee Harvey Oswald.

644
00:34:18,192 --> 00:34:20,994
No judge or jury
in their right mind

645
00:34:21,028 --> 00:34:26,166
would ever let abortion happen
in Texas, ever.

646
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,736
Ever.

647
00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:29,169
I'm Jay Floyd,

648
00:34:29,203 --> 00:34:30,904
Assistant Attorney General
of the State of Texas.

649
00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,005
The parties in this lawsuit

650
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:32,807
have no standing
before the court.

651
00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:35,410
Jane Roe no longer
seeks an abortion.

652
00:34:35,443 --> 00:34:37,177
She has had the baby
or is having it.

653
00:34:37,211 --> 00:34:38,178
Are we gonna let the delay

654
00:34:38,212 --> 00:34:40,280
in the hearing
abort the case?

655
00:34:40,315 --> 00:34:42,417
She may want to
engage in activity

656
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:43,685
where she'll become pregnant,

657
00:34:43,718 --> 00:34:45,252
and then she may want
an abortion.

658
00:34:45,285 --> 00:34:47,221
The law's whether or not
the party has standing

659
00:34:47,254 --> 00:34:49,457
at the time the issues
are decided in the case.

660
00:34:49,491 --> 00:34:51,459
This statute takes effect

661
00:34:51,493 --> 00:34:54,261
regardless of when
the embryo takes effect.

662
00:34:54,294 --> 00:34:56,431
I mean, at first week?

663
00:34:56,464 --> 00:34:57,632
There have been many arguments

664
00:34:57,665 --> 00:34:59,467
as to when an embryo
becomes a human being.

665
00:34:59,501 --> 00:35:01,101
There have been
many religious groups

666
00:35:01,135 --> 00:35:02,704
that have joined
in that controversy,

667
00:35:02,737 --> 00:35:05,105
and I'm not setting forth
the Catholic faith.

668
00:35:05,139 --> 00:35:07,241
How is that
gettin' you anywhere?

669
00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:08,710
The point is,

670
00:35:08,743 --> 00:35:10,545
the state's interest
is whether or not murder occurs,

671
00:35:10,578 --> 00:35:12,913
and if the embryo is considered
a human being.

672
00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:16,418
There have been
many opinions on privacy.

673
00:35:16,451 --> 00:35:20,755
So, you're saying that if Texas
were to approve abortion,

674
00:35:20,789 --> 00:35:24,559
that it would be considered a
direct killin' of our citizens?

675
00:35:24,592 --> 00:35:28,329
I-I think this is a bad word
in this situation,

676
00:35:28,363 --> 00:35:29,831
although everybody
seems to want to use it.

677
00:35:29,864 --> 00:35:31,733
I haven't come up
with a phrase myself,

678
00:35:31,766 --> 00:35:33,768
but I don't think
privacy is gonna do it.

679
00:35:33,802 --> 00:35:36,170
The State's position is
the right of that child to life

680
00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:38,606
is superior to the woman's
right to privacy.

681
00:35:40,341 --> 00:35:41,476
Then an argument could be made

682
00:35:41,509 --> 00:35:44,077
that an abortion
isn't necessary,

683
00:35:44,111 --> 00:35:46,448
a medical argument because of
the health of the mother.

684
00:35:46,481 --> 00:35:48,416
Any possible change
in the relevant law

685
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,453
is a matter for the state
legislators and not the courts.

686
00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:05,834
First Amendment rights
or Ninth Amendment rights,

687
00:36:05,867 --> 00:36:07,469
I feel that they are
so important that they deserve

688
00:36:07,502 --> 00:36:09,370
special protection.

689
00:36:09,404 --> 00:36:11,706
They involve fundamental
human freedoms.

690
00:36:11,739 --> 00:36:14,542
The State has not tried to
prosecute unfairly, has it?

691
00:36:14,576 --> 00:36:16,511
The State is prosecuting
against physicians.

692
00:36:16,544 --> 00:36:19,179
Do you think the entire
statute should be stricken?

693
00:36:19,213 --> 00:36:20,415
Yes.

694
00:36:22,082 --> 00:36:23,885
- Is the court worried about...?
- Ah...

695
00:36:23,918 --> 00:36:26,454
We worry about a lot of things.
Don't let that worry you.

696
00:36:29,557 --> 00:36:31,124
I think the statute is so bad

697
00:36:31,158 --> 00:36:33,495
that the court just has to
strike it all down.

698
00:36:33,528 --> 00:36:37,532
So, you think 63 years
of unconstitutionality

699
00:36:37,565 --> 00:36:40,969
should've worn everyone's
constitutional patience?

700
00:36:41,001 --> 00:36:42,135
Is that what you're saying?

701
00:36:42,169 --> 00:36:43,505
I think the State
has had plenty of time

702
00:36:43,538 --> 00:36:45,038
to construe this statute.

703
00:36:59,387 --> 00:37:01,756
<i>This was
the judge Linda clerked for,</i>

704
00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:03,223
<i>and she obviously
made her decision</i>

705
00:37:03,257 --> 00:37:05,393
<i>before she even heard the case.</i>

706
00:37:05,426 --> 00:37:07,261
<i>I think the wink gave it away.</i>

707
00:37:09,129 --> 00:37:11,566
I would like to draw to
the court's attention that life

708
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:13,835
is an ongoing process.

709
00:37:13,868 --> 00:37:15,870
It is almost impossible
to define at which point

710
00:37:15,904 --> 00:37:18,006
life begins or

711
00:37:18,038 --> 00:37:20,173
perhaps even when life ends.

712
00:37:20,207 --> 00:37:24,244
Assuming there is a Ninth
Amendment right to privacy,

713
00:37:24,278 --> 00:37:25,847
does the state have
any compelling reason

714
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,550
to regulate
or modify that right?

715
00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:30,919
I cannot see
any justification for regulation

716
00:37:30,952 --> 00:37:33,021
when the abortion's
being done by a doctor.

717
00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:36,524
The state of the pregnancy
or anything?

718
00:37:36,558 --> 00:37:40,060
The stage of the pregnancy
is pause for concern, um.

719
00:37:41,496 --> 00:37:44,032
You could recognize life
when the fetus is able to live

720
00:37:44,064 --> 00:37:46,266
outside the body of the mother.

721
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,537
It might be dependent on
whether she has money or not?

722
00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:54,042
The young,
those still in school,

723
00:37:54,074 --> 00:37:59,279
those unable to shoulder
the responsibility of a child,

724
00:37:59,314 --> 00:38:01,883
these girls should not be
put through the pregnancy

725
00:38:01,916 --> 00:38:04,284
and should be entitled
to an abortion.

726
00:38:20,635 --> 00:38:22,135
Gentlemen, inside, now!

727
00:38:25,607 --> 00:38:28,576
I told you any decent lawyer
could win this case!

728
00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:31,779
You, Mr. Floyd, are apparently
not a decent lawyer.

729
00:38:31,813 --> 00:38:33,581
The judge's decision
was political;

730
00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:34,782
nobody could've done anything.

731
00:38:34,816 --> 00:38:36,149
You weren't prepared!

732
00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:39,252
You didn't bring in
any medical experts to testify

733
00:38:39,286 --> 00:38:41,489
that life begins at conception!

734
00:38:41,522 --> 00:38:44,191
They said the Constitution
didn't apply to the unborn.

735
00:38:44,224 --> 00:38:45,660
We'll fight the decision, Hank!

736
00:38:45,693 --> 00:38:49,097
Fight? You didn't even
bring in all of the case law.

737
00:38:49,129 --> 00:38:52,600
Dozens that do protect
the rights of the unborn!

738
00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:54,167
You've embarrassed this office.

739
00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,169
Sir, if you would just listen
to what I have to say, I could...

740
00:38:56,203 --> 00:38:59,807
Planned Parenthood
in their own words agree,

741
00:38:59,841 --> 00:39:04,379
"Abortion kills the life
of the baby after it's begun"!

742
00:39:04,412 --> 00:39:06,648
Right here in their own damn
pamphlet!

743
00:39:11,151 --> 00:39:13,554
You research this Jane Roe

744
00:39:13,588 --> 00:39:15,957
to see if she's
telling the truth.

745
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:18,726
Mr. Tolle,
I will deal with you.

746
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,062
Mr. Floyd,
you deal with the Governor.

747
00:39:25,265 --> 00:39:27,869
I will appeal this all the way
to the Supreme Court,

748
00:39:27,902 --> 00:39:29,937
so help me God!

749
00:39:31,406 --> 00:39:33,173
Until the appeals process
is over,

750
00:39:33,206 --> 00:39:36,243
abortion is still illegal
in Texas.

751
00:39:36,276 --> 00:39:39,080
<i>Potter keeps pushing Roe.</i>

752
00:39:39,113 --> 00:39:40,247
<i>I think we should wait.</i>

753
00:39:41,749 --> 00:39:42,817
The Senate has rejected

754
00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:45,920
each of Nixon's
appointments so far.

755
00:39:45,953 --> 00:39:47,855
Who knows how long
this could take.

756
00:39:47,889 --> 00:39:50,758
Obviously, they're just trying
as many cases as they can

757
00:39:50,792 --> 00:39:52,225
while they're still in control.

758
00:39:53,861 --> 00:39:55,730
Your letter to Nixon
did help get your friend

759
00:39:55,763 --> 00:39:57,065
Blackmun on the bench.

760
00:39:57,098 --> 00:39:58,866
Well, I had to do something.

761
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:02,403
Nothing like that
has happened in 40 years.

762
00:40:02,437 --> 00:40:04,271
At this rate, the liberals
will never let Nixon

763
00:40:04,305 --> 00:40:06,741
appoint any new justices.

764
00:40:06,774 --> 00:40:09,877
It could be
Rehnquist and Powell.

765
00:40:09,911 --> 00:40:12,413
Who the hell knows
where they stand.

766
00:40:12,447 --> 00:40:13,681
What are you thinking, Byron?

767
00:40:13,715 --> 00:40:16,050
Seven judges,
only six are required.

768
00:40:16,084 --> 00:40:17,618
<i>The Supreme Court</i>

769
00:40:17,652 --> 00:40:18,920
<i>has nine justices.</i>

770
00:40:18,953 --> 00:40:20,621
<i>Two had just retired,</i>

771
00:40:20,655 --> 00:40:22,255
<i>and Nixon was fighting
with the Senate</i>

772
00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:24,425
<i>over his replacements.</i>

773
00:40:24,459 --> 00:40:30,531
This is far too. Too sensitive
a matter for seven.

774
00:40:30,565 --> 00:40:32,232
Well, we just decided
the Vuitch case.

775
00:40:32,265 --> 00:40:34,736
I'll bring that up
and we'll-we'll move on.

776
00:40:36,304 --> 00:40:38,773
Roe v. Wade,
in the grand scheme of things,

777
00:40:38,806 --> 00:40:41,409
is not that important.

778
00:40:41,442 --> 00:40:42,543
The Vuitch case!

779
00:40:42,577 --> 00:40:45,113
I don't-I don't see
the correlation.

780
00:40:45,146 --> 00:40:47,215
These people,
they want-they want abortion

781
00:40:47,247 --> 00:40:49,050
for reasons other than
life or health.

782
00:40:49,083 --> 00:40:50,451
They want abortion on demand.

783
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,921
Well, we'll see.

784
00:41:03,197 --> 00:41:05,133
What's all the commotion,
my jurists?

785
00:41:06,934 --> 00:41:09,971
Professor, everyone's talking
about what's happening in Texas.

786
00:41:10,004 --> 00:41:11,506
Is that what's on your minds?

787
00:41:11,539 --> 00:41:13,808
Only fanatics
are against abortion.

788
00:41:13,841 --> 00:41:15,109
Oh, really?

789
00:41:17,145 --> 00:41:18,179
Mother Teresa?

790
00:41:18,212 --> 00:41:20,014
Martin Luther King?
The Dalai Lama?

791
00:41:21,883 --> 00:41:23,484
"It would seem to me
clear as daylight

792
00:41:23,518 --> 00:41:25,353
- that abortion would be a crime."
- Mahatma Gandhi.

793
00:41:25,386 --> 00:41:26,521
Fanatics?

794
00:41:26,554 --> 00:41:28,189
None of them
were getting pregnant.

795
00:41:28,222 --> 00:41:30,992
Regardless, we should have the
right to control our own bodies.

796
00:41:31,025 --> 00:41:32,994
Yes, one should have the right

797
00:41:33,027 --> 00:41:34,996
to do whatever she wants
with her own actual body.

798
00:41:35,029 --> 00:41:36,764
But let me ask you something.

799
00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:39,433
What happens when that body

800
00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:41,969
starts to interfere
with another body?

801
00:41:42,003 --> 00:41:43,004
You mean,
the rights of the fetus?

802
00:41:43,037 --> 00:41:45,706
It is part of our own bodies.

803
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:47,375
All of your body parts

804
00:41:47,408 --> 00:41:51,045
share the same DNA,
except the fetus.

805
00:41:51,078 --> 00:41:53,381
So, the child, by definition,

806
00:41:53,414 --> 00:41:56,684
is not part of
anyone's body but their own.

807
00:41:56,717 --> 00:41:58,152
But how can you say
it's a life?

808
00:41:58,186 --> 00:41:59,487
It can't live
without the mother.

809
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,956
Well, Dan.

810
00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:03,491
Were you able to feed yourself

811
00:42:03,524 --> 00:42:05,359
without your mother,
the day after you were born?

812
00:42:05,393 --> 00:42:06,794
- Well.
- Not even a one-year-old

813
00:42:06,828 --> 00:42:09,130
or a two-year-old
can take care of themselves.

814
00:42:09,163 --> 00:42:11,699
Dan can't even
take care of himself now.

815
00:42:14,068 --> 00:42:15,069
You think this is funny?

816
00:42:16,871 --> 00:42:20,208
You all protest
the killing in Vietnam.

817
00:42:20,241 --> 00:42:23,010
So, am I confused,
or is this just hypocrisy?

818
00:42:23,044 --> 00:42:24,212
The elderly,

819
00:42:24,245 --> 00:42:26,747
the handicapped,
the incapacitated,

820
00:42:26,781 --> 00:42:28,149
they can't take care
of themselves.

821
00:42:28,182 --> 00:42:29,517
Should we eliminate them too?

822
00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:31,085
What about birth defects?

823
00:42:31,118 --> 00:42:34,522
To kill an unborn child
because of defects

824
00:42:34,555 --> 00:42:37,692
is what the Nazis
used to do to the Jews.

825
00:42:37,725 --> 00:42:38,926
Let me give you a riddle.

826
00:42:42,063 --> 00:42:43,831
The father,

827
00:42:43,865 --> 00:42:45,666
syphilitic.

828
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,535
The mother had tuberculosis.

829
00:42:47,568 --> 00:42:50,705
Of their four children,
one was blind, the second died,

830
00:42:50,738 --> 00:42:52,106
the third was deaf and dumb,

831
00:42:52,139 --> 00:42:53,641
and the fourth
had tuberculosis, too.

832
00:42:56,277 --> 00:42:57,745
If the mother
got pregnant again,

833
00:43:00,448 --> 00:43:01,949
what would you do with the baby?

834
00:43:01,983 --> 00:43:03,284
I wouldn't want my child

835
00:43:03,318 --> 00:43:05,553
to grow up disabled
and suffer.

836
00:43:05,586 --> 00:43:07,121
You would have
killed Beethoven.

837
00:43:08,556 --> 00:43:11,425
Don't you think
that someone's hopelessness

838
00:43:11,459 --> 00:43:15,364
should motivate us
to protect them,

839
00:43:15,396 --> 00:43:16,931
not destroy them?

840
00:43:23,305 --> 00:43:24,438
Is everything okay?

841
00:43:26,741 --> 00:43:31,979
I.I can't take care
of a baby right now.

842
00:43:32,013 --> 00:43:32,847
I see.

843
00:43:34,349 --> 00:43:36,751
And I can't tell
my family about this.

844
00:43:41,422 --> 00:43:42,823
They can't know.

845
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:46,894
<i>You do know
I love you, right?</i>

846
00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:49,096
I can't take care
of a baby right now.

847
00:44:03,678 --> 00:44:05,112
My life is over.

848
00:44:05,146 --> 00:44:07,081
I'm so sorry, Mary.

849
00:44:07,114 --> 00:44:09,450
The hospital
limits me with quotas.

850
00:44:09,483 --> 00:44:11,786
So, each of you
are only permitted to do

851
00:44:11,819 --> 00:44:13,322
20 abortions a week.

852
00:44:13,355 --> 00:44:14,789
That's like saying I've done
too many gall bladders

853
00:44:14,822 --> 00:44:16,490
but I can still do
hernia repairs.

854
00:44:16,524 --> 00:44:18,826
This is a democratic approach.

855
00:44:18,859 --> 00:44:21,629
To limit a woman's access
to health care?

856
00:44:21,662 --> 00:44:24,131
Staff members should have
equal access to beds and ORs.

857
00:44:24,165 --> 00:44:25,833
I've already
fulfilled my quota.

858
00:44:25,866 --> 00:44:28,936
Dr. Berg won't do abortions,
let me use his.

859
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:31,839
We can't transfer
another doctor's quotas to you.

860
00:44:31,872 --> 00:44:37,278
Hah, I get this.
I get what's going on here.

861
00:44:37,312 --> 00:44:40,047
This is an attack on us! Why?

862
00:44:40,081 --> 00:44:43,484
Because we were the ones
outspoken on reform?

863
00:44:43,517 --> 00:44:45,720
Yeah, I've heard the whispers
in the locker room

864
00:44:45,753 --> 00:44:47,521
and I've gotten the looks
in the hallway,

865
00:44:47,555 --> 00:44:49,690
the half portions
in the cafeteria,

866
00:44:49,724 --> 00:44:52,293
the sneers
and the nicknames.

867
00:44:52,327 --> 00:44:55,629
This isn't high school.
You can't hurt me.

868
00:44:55,663 --> 00:44:57,131
Because I'm proud of what I do,

869
00:44:57,164 --> 00:44:59,633
and I'm proud to help
the women of this country.

870
00:44:59,667 --> 00:45:02,471
So, if you wanna humiliate me

871
00:45:02,503 --> 00:45:06,707
and call me the Scraper
behind my back,

872
00:45:06,741 --> 00:45:09,510
I'll wear it
as a badge of honor.

873
00:45:09,543 --> 00:45:14,582
Or if you wanna ridicule me
and call me the Abortion King,

874
00:45:14,615 --> 00:45:17,685
I'll wear that title with pride.

875
00:45:17,718 --> 00:45:19,920
Because when a woman
is at her wits' end,

876
00:45:19,954 --> 00:45:21,689
and she has no one else
to turn to,

877
00:45:21,722 --> 00:45:24,258
when she's too frightened
to tell her family

878
00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:26,927
or fears going to the butcher,

879
00:45:26,961 --> 00:45:28,596
when she has to
spend her last dime

880
00:45:28,629 --> 00:45:30,097
to catch the Greyhound

881
00:45:30,131 --> 00:45:32,434
or hitchhike her way
to New York,

882
00:45:32,467 --> 00:45:36,270
when she breaks down in tears
crying out for her savior

883
00:45:36,304 --> 00:45:40,207
and when your God
can't help her, Kenneth.

884
00:45:41,776 --> 00:45:44,078
Who do you think
she's crying for?

885
00:45:51,118 --> 00:45:52,720
<i>I decided to fight back,</i>

886
00:45:52,753 --> 00:45:55,390
<i>so I had Larry call
and leak the story to the press</i>

887
00:45:55,424 --> 00:45:57,625
<i>and feed some of this
good raw meat</i>

888
00:45:57,658 --> 00:45:59,660
<i>to the drooling beasts
in the media.</i>

889
00:46:01,128 --> 00:46:02,897
Yeah. Hi, Kate?

890
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:04,899
Yes, Larry Lader.

891
00:46:04,932 --> 00:46:06,801
How are you?

892
00:46:06,834 --> 00:46:09,136
I have a story for you.

893
00:46:11,306 --> 00:46:13,408
Hi. I was hoping to
speak to someone

894
00:46:13,442 --> 00:46:15,176
about the quotas
you put on abortions.

895
00:46:20,081 --> 00:46:22,883
It's amazing how the quotas
magically dried up.

896
00:46:22,917 --> 00:46:26,053
Time of death?

897
00:46:26,087 --> 00:46:28,155
<i>And the Medicine section
of</i> Time Magazine

898
00:46:28,189 --> 00:46:29,990
<i>had a three-column spread.</i>

899
00:46:31,493 --> 00:46:34,662
Thanks for getting those quotas
lifted, Your Majesty.

900
00:46:34,695 --> 00:46:36,163
Aw. Thank you, Sire.

901
00:46:36,197 --> 00:46:38,999
Your favorite,
corn flakes.

902
00:46:41,369 --> 00:46:45,272
You know
that John Harvey Kellogg

903
00:46:45,307 --> 00:46:49,243
created corn flakes
as an anti-aphrodisiac.

904
00:46:49,276 --> 00:46:53,114
He believed bland foods
decreased sex drive.

905
00:46:53,147 --> 00:46:54,416
Oh, well.

906
00:46:54,449 --> 00:46:57,284
I hope that's not true,
for Joan's sake.

907
00:46:57,319 --> 00:46:59,286
Did I miss something?

908
00:46:59,321 --> 00:47:01,523
Yeah, your husband's
trivial knowledge.

909
00:47:01,556 --> 00:47:04,125
He also founded
the Race Betterment Foundation

910
00:47:04,158 --> 00:47:06,827
which paved the way
for Margaret Sanger.

911
00:47:06,861 --> 00:47:08,662
Don't eat that.

912
00:47:08,696 --> 00:47:09,630
Huh?

913
00:47:13,834 --> 00:47:15,537
Are you gonna stop me?

914
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:16,737
Eat up.

915
00:47:27,014 --> 00:47:29,584
Could you quiet them down,
Joan?

916
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,456
Let me show you somethin'.

917
00:47:35,756 --> 00:47:37,691
We need to come up
with a jingle.

918
00:47:37,725 --> 00:47:39,528
Something catchy.

919
00:47:39,561 --> 00:47:41,996
Bernie, what was that song
you told me about?

920
00:47:42,029 --> 00:47:44,865
The one that doctors used to
sing during your residency.

921
00:47:44,899 --> 00:47:46,501
Oh, I can't do that.

922
00:47:46,535 --> 00:47:48,035
- I can't...
- You have a song?

923
00:47:49,404 --> 00:47:50,572
Aw, come on, Bernie.
Don't be shy.

924
00:47:50,605 --> 00:47:52,039
No way, no, no, no, no.

925
00:47:52,072 --> 00:47:53,174
Let it out.

926
00:47:53,207 --> 00:47:54,675
I'm no Stravinsky.
I can't, I can't...

927
00:47:54,708 --> 00:47:58,480
Well, Joan is.
Joan! Joan, help.

928
00:47:58,513 --> 00:48:00,181
Why don't you
get us started.

929
00:48:00,214 --> 00:48:02,183
- I'll join in.
- Ah.

930
00:48:02,216 --> 00:48:03,518
Come on.
Come on, Bernie.

931
00:48:03,552 --> 00:48:04,818
Okay, fine, fine, fine.

932
00:48:04,852 --> 00:48:06,421
Sing it!

933
00:48:07,522 --> 00:48:08,590
Okay. Fine.

934
00:48:08,623 --> 00:48:12,661
♪ There's a fortune
In abortion ♪

935
00:48:12,693 --> 00:48:16,897
♪ Just a twist of the wrist
And you're through ♪

936
00:48:16,931 --> 00:48:21,536
♪ The population of the nation ♪

937
00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:25,005
♪ Won't grow
If it's left up to you ♪

938
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,678
♪ There's a fortune
In abortion ♪

939
00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:33,781
♪ There's a gold mine
In the sex line ♪

940
00:48:33,814 --> 00:48:38,520
♪ Only rabbits
Have those habits ♪

941
00:48:38,553 --> 00:48:43,290
♪ Oh there's a fortune
In abortion ♪

942
00:48:43,325 --> 00:48:48,762
♪ You never bother
The future father ♪

943
00:48:48,796 --> 00:48:50,264
I found the Catholics!

944
00:48:50,297 --> 00:48:51,899
Those Vatican devils,

945
00:48:51,932 --> 00:48:53,934
starting right here
with the big cheese:

946
00:48:53,968 --> 00:48:56,471
Cardinal Cooke,
Father McHugh,

947
00:48:56,504 --> 00:48:58,872
Robert Byrn,
Charlie Rice,

948
00:48:58,906 --> 00:49:01,409
Ellen McCormack,
even Ed Golden.

949
00:49:01,443 --> 00:49:04,044
If we're gonna succeed,
people have gotta be scared!

950
00:49:04,078 --> 00:49:06,280
Well, men are governed
by lines of intellect,

951
00:49:06,314 --> 00:49:07,982
women by curves of emotion.

952
00:49:08,015 --> 00:49:09,618
That's our Catholic strategy,
right there.

953
00:49:09,651 --> 00:49:11,118
Perfect.

954
00:49:11,151 --> 00:49:13,421
Well, these guys have been
scaring people for years!

955
00:49:13,455 --> 00:49:15,055
How are we looking
on the new numbers?

956
00:49:15,089 --> 00:49:17,091
A million illegal abortions
a year;

957
00:49:17,124 --> 00:49:18,792
10,000 die in back alleys.

958
00:49:18,826 --> 00:49:20,662
<i>I completely made that up.</i>

959
00:49:20,695 --> 00:49:22,963
<i>A million illegal
abortions a year?</i>

960
00:49:22,997 --> 00:49:26,934
<i>Ten thousand die in back alleys?
Not even close.</i>

961
00:49:26,967 --> 00:49:28,670
That's like a hand grenade
in a maternity ward.

962
00:49:28,703 --> 00:49:31,805
But we need slogans,
battle cries.

963
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:32,973
Not statistics.

964
00:49:33,007 --> 00:49:34,342
People trust numbers.

965
00:49:34,376 --> 00:49:35,510
Yeah.

966
00:49:35,543 --> 00:49:38,279
Cyril's right.
People do trust numbers.

967
00:49:38,313 --> 00:49:40,348
But Betty is also right.

968
00:49:40,382 --> 00:49:42,283
People need something
to grab on to,

969
00:49:42,317 --> 00:49:44,452
something to hook
in their brains

970
00:49:44,486 --> 00:49:46,186
that feel like
they're part of the movement.

971
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:47,154
You want a slogan?

972
00:49:47,187 --> 00:49:48,122
Yeah.

973
00:49:49,223 --> 00:49:50,858
I have a slogan.

974
00:49:50,891 --> 00:49:53,927
It's a woman's body.
It's her right to choose.

975
00:49:53,961 --> 00:49:55,664
We are the pro-choice people.

976
00:49:55,697 --> 00:49:57,365
- That's amazing.
- Pro-choice.

977
00:49:57,399 --> 00:49:58,466
Uh-huh.

978
00:49:58,500 --> 00:49:59,833
Pro... we're pro-choice.

979
00:49:59,867 --> 00:50:03,338
Yes, it's-it's pro-freedom,
it-it's pro-liberty.

980
00:50:03,371 --> 00:50:04,972
Who can argue with it?

981
00:50:05,005 --> 00:50:07,141
They came up with the slogan...
pro-choice.

982
00:50:07,174 --> 00:50:09,009
Pro-choice?

983
00:50:10,645 --> 00:50:14,549
What an evasive, fraudulent
and deceptive term.

984
00:50:14,582 --> 00:50:16,116
<i>According to recent statistics,</i>

985
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:18,720
<i>over one million women
are having illegal abortions</i>

986
00:50:18,753 --> 00:50:20,287
<i>every year in America.</i>

987
00:50:20,322 --> 00:50:22,056
<i>And over 10,000 are dying</i>

988
00:50:22,089 --> 00:50:24,191
<i>from these back alley
type procedures.</i>

989
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:30,332
Why aren't we taking
our own polls?

990
00:50:30,365 --> 00:50:32,467
They told the press
that one in three Catholics

991
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:33,735
are for abortion!

992
00:50:33,768 --> 00:50:35,035
Because
we don't have the money!

993
00:50:35,069 --> 00:50:36,170
Why didn't this Jane Roe

994
00:50:36,203 --> 00:50:38,005
just give the baby up
for adoption?

995
00:50:38,038 --> 00:50:40,742
There is a long waiting list
for white babies.

996
00:50:42,042 --> 00:50:42,943
This was political.

997
00:50:45,012 --> 00:50:46,348
Judge Hughes
kept her hidden.

998
00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:50,585
We gotta get Wade
on the phone.

999
00:50:55,889 --> 00:50:56,990
<i>District Attorney's office,</i>

1000
00:50:57,024 --> 00:50:58,058
<i>may I help you?</i>

1001
00:50:58,092 --> 00:50:59,761
Robert Byrn for Henry Wade.

1002
00:50:59,794 --> 00:51:01,696
What can I do for you, Bobby?

1003
00:51:01,730 --> 00:51:03,365
I've got the team here.

1004
00:51:03,398 --> 00:51:05,533
The Supreme Court
will hear the case!

1005
00:51:07,301 --> 00:51:08,536
Let us know if we can help.

1006
00:51:11,373 --> 00:51:12,574
<i>It was time to prepare</i>

1007
00:51:12,607 --> 00:51:13,608
<i>for the Supreme Court.</i>

1008
00:51:14,908 --> 00:51:16,877
<i>While some focused
on saving lives,</i>

1009
00:51:19,547 --> 00:51:21,281
<i>others had no idea
what was coming.</i>

1010
00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:25,919
<i>Everyone had their own agenda.</i>

1011
00:51:25,953 --> 00:51:27,856
<i>We used Sarah and the lawyers
from Planned Parenthood</i>

1012
00:51:27,888 --> 00:51:28,989
<i>to fulfill ours.</i>

1013
00:51:31,826 --> 00:51:33,395
<i>Certainties as unquestioned</i>

1014
00:51:33,428 --> 00:51:36,731
<i>as the U.S. Constitution
itself, trembled!</i>

1015
00:51:56,584 --> 00:51:58,152
All rise!

1016
00:52:14,469 --> 00:52:17,070
<i>There
were still only seven justices</i>

1017
00:52:17,104 --> 00:52:18,972
<i>because Nixon still
wasn't able to</i>

1018
00:52:19,006 --> 00:52:20,842
<i>get his two picks confirmed.</i>

1019
00:52:23,711 --> 00:52:25,914
I am completely
out of my depth.

1020
00:52:25,946 --> 00:52:27,281
Don't be nervous.

1021
00:52:27,315 --> 00:52:29,149
You had the best of the best
prepare you.

1022
00:52:30,017 --> 00:52:31,453
You'll be fine.

1023
00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:02,182
We will hear arguments

1024
00:53:02,216 --> 00:53:05,620
in Roe against Wade.

1025
00:53:05,653 --> 00:53:07,822
Mrs. Weddington,
you may proceed.

1026
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,169
Mr. Chief Justice,
may it please the court.

1027
00:53:23,872 --> 00:53:26,641
The court declared
the Texas abortion law

1028
00:53:26,674 --> 00:53:30,077
to be unconstitutional
for two reasons.

1029
00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:32,914
First, the law was vague,

1030
00:53:32,947 --> 00:53:36,518
and second,
it violated a woman's right

1031
00:53:36,551 --> 00:53:39,587
to continue or terminate
a pregnancy.

1032
00:53:39,621 --> 00:53:42,657
The Texas law permits
abortions be performed

1033
00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,693
only for the purpose of
saving the life of the woman.

1034
00:53:47,529 --> 00:53:50,097
When this case of yours

1035
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:51,666
was in the district court,

1036
00:53:51,699 --> 00:53:54,736
the case of Vuitch against
the United States

1037
00:53:54,769 --> 00:53:57,005
had not been decided here.

1038
00:53:57,037 --> 00:53:58,071
That is correct.

1039
00:53:58,105 --> 00:53:59,607
Now that it has,

1040
00:53:59,641 --> 00:54:01,509
do you think that
that disposes of

1041
00:54:01,543 --> 00:54:03,578
some of the questions
you're raising now?

1042
00:54:03,611 --> 00:54:05,947
Your Honor, I do not.

1043
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:07,515
In the Vuitch decision,

1044
00:54:07,549 --> 00:54:10,418
this court was working with
a statute which provided

1045
00:54:10,451 --> 00:54:12,252
that an abortion
could be permitted

1046
00:54:12,286 --> 00:54:14,556
for reasons of health or life.

1047
00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:17,592
Does Texas law,
in other areas of the law,

1048
00:54:17,625 --> 00:54:19,961
give rights to the unborn?

1049
00:54:19,994 --> 00:54:24,699
In an area such as trusts,
estates, wills or elsewhere?

1050
00:54:24,732 --> 00:54:27,936
The Supreme Court of Texas
recently held a case

1051
00:54:27,969 --> 00:54:31,138
in which there is action for
prenatal injuries at any stage

1052
00:54:31,171 --> 00:54:33,942
prior to birth,
but only upon the condition

1053
00:54:33,975 --> 00:54:35,743
that it be born alive.

1054
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:53,995
Mr. Justice, it's an old joke,

1055
00:54:54,028 --> 00:54:58,733
but when a man argues against
two beautiful ladies,

1056
00:54:58,766 --> 00:55:00,200
they're gonna have
the last word.

1057
00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:10,645
As to the-as to the unmarried
pregnant female,

1058
00:55:10,678 --> 00:55:13,180
a unique situation arises.

1059
00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:14,616
Is her action moot?

1060
00:55:16,451 --> 00:55:19,020
It has been recognized
by the appellant's counsel

1061
00:55:19,053 --> 00:55:21,923
that she is no longer pregnant.

1062
00:55:21,956 --> 00:55:25,360
Of course, if moot,
there is no case or controversy.

1063
00:55:25,393 --> 00:55:27,428
- Class action, wasn't it?
- Yes,

1064
00:55:27,462 --> 00:55:29,296
but the whole purpose
of class action

1065
00:55:29,330 --> 00:55:32,199
is to have a representative
in court.

1066
00:55:32,232 --> 00:55:34,769
So, what procedure
would you suggest

1067
00:55:34,802 --> 00:55:38,205
for any pregnant female
in the State of Texas

1068
00:55:38,238 --> 00:55:42,010
to ever get
judicial consideration?

1069
00:55:42,043 --> 00:55:43,478
We can take judicial notice

1070
00:55:43,511 --> 00:55:45,647
of the fact
that at any given moment,

1071
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,550
there are unwed pregnant females
in the State of Texas.

1072
00:55:52,219 --> 00:55:53,888
I think she makes her choice

1073
00:55:53,921 --> 00:55:56,357
prior to the time
that she becomes pregnant.

1074
00:55:56,391 --> 00:55:58,559
Maybe she makes her choice

1075
00:55:58,593 --> 00:56:01,629
when she decides
to live in Texas.

1076
00:56:10,538 --> 00:56:12,540
It should've been debated
in Congress, not here.

1077
00:56:14,174 --> 00:56:15,977
"Courts are
the mere instruments of the law,

1078
00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:17,478
and can will nothing."
John Marshall.

1079
00:56:17,512 --> 00:56:18,880
Politicians
don't have the courage

1080
00:56:18,913 --> 00:56:20,314
to argue with the legislature.

1081
00:56:20,348 --> 00:56:21,416
The right to life

1082
00:56:21,449 --> 00:56:22,583
is the cornerstone
of our government.

1083
00:56:22,617 --> 00:56:24,385
It's a foundation
of the Constitution.

1084
00:56:24,419 --> 00:56:27,588
They were mocking him in there.

1085
00:56:27,622 --> 00:56:29,924
I don't even know why
this is in the Supreme Court.

1086
00:56:29,957 --> 00:56:31,592
There's no factual record
in this case,

1087
00:56:31,626 --> 00:56:33,661
no trial,
no expert witnesses,

1088
00:56:33,695 --> 00:56:35,163
no description of evidence,

1089
00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,197
no expert witness testimony.
It didn't even go through

1090
00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:38,198
an appeal!

1091
00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:39,434
This is a conspiracy.

1092
00:56:39,467 --> 00:56:40,233
They're
laughin' at him in there!

1093
00:56:40,267 --> 00:56:41,669
Laughin' at him!

1094
00:56:41,703 --> 00:56:43,270
They're not laughin' with him.
They're laughin' at him!

1095
00:56:43,304 --> 00:56:45,440
It couldn't have been that bad.

1096
00:56:45,473 --> 00:56:47,341
You're a law professor.

1097
00:56:47,375 --> 00:56:49,744
He didn't even address
the rights of the unborn

1098
00:56:49,777 --> 00:56:51,846
in property law,
probate law,

1099
00:56:51,879 --> 00:56:54,782
criminal law, tort law,
the list goes on.

1100
00:56:54,816 --> 00:56:58,519
The judges ask him what rights,
if any, do the unborn have,

1101
00:56:58,553 --> 00:57:01,288
and he just stood there
and didn't say anything.

1102
00:57:01,322 --> 00:57:03,124
I gotta go
before I blow a gasket!

1103
00:57:06,494 --> 00:57:08,863
There's no more discussion
for...?

1104
00:57:08,896 --> 00:57:10,431
For Roe?

1105
00:57:12,467 --> 00:57:13,801
<i>The four justices on the right</i>

1106
00:57:13,835 --> 00:57:15,636
<i>with their hands up</i>

1107
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:19,440
<i>voted to legalize abortion,
while the three on the left,</i>

1108
00:57:19,474 --> 00:57:23,911
<i>including Chief Justice Burger,
were supporting life.</i>

1109
00:57:23,945 --> 00:57:27,181
<i>This made it four to three
in favor of abortion.</i>

1110
00:57:40,094 --> 00:57:42,063
Apologize, gentlemen.

1111
00:57:42,096 --> 00:57:44,132
In the matter of Roe v. Wade,

1112
00:57:44,165 --> 00:57:47,001
I want the case reargued.

1113
00:57:47,034 --> 00:57:48,402
<i>Chief Justice Burger was losing,</i>

1114
00:57:48,436 --> 00:57:50,171
<i>so he wanted the case reheard</i>

1115
00:57:50,204 --> 00:57:53,741
<i>to flip the vote
in favor of life.</i>

1116
00:57:53,775 --> 00:57:54,742
Well, besides the obvious,

1117
00:57:54,776 --> 00:57:56,077
what's your reasoning?

1118
00:57:56,110 --> 00:57:57,111
Four to three in favor of Roe,

1119
00:57:57,145 --> 00:57:58,513
it's very close.

1120
00:57:58,546 --> 00:57:59,914
We've had
close decisions before.

1121
00:57:59,947 --> 00:58:01,249
Because
it didn't go Warren's way.

1122
00:58:01,281 --> 00:58:02,583
That has nothing to do with it.

1123
00:58:02,617 --> 00:58:03,684
The importance of this issue

1124
00:58:03,718 --> 00:58:06,320
merits a full bench treatment.

1125
00:58:06,354 --> 00:58:07,355
Of course, Harry.

1126
00:58:07,388 --> 00:58:08,456
Because you're Warren's man.

1127
00:58:08,489 --> 00:58:09,791
I resent that.

1128
00:58:09,824 --> 00:58:11,626
You were
best man at his wedding.

1129
00:58:11,659 --> 00:58:14,294
It was my idea to reargue
in the first place.

1130
00:58:14,328 --> 00:58:18,032
Harry, you're here because
he recommended you to Nixon.

1131
00:58:18,065 --> 00:58:20,201
Enough! We need to wait!

1132
00:58:20,234 --> 00:58:21,836
And why is that?
Because this decision

1133
00:58:21,869 --> 00:58:24,672
might affect your old pal
Nixon's re-election?

1134
00:58:24,705 --> 00:58:27,141
Really, Potter?

1135
00:58:27,175 --> 00:58:29,977
Can we rest the egos

1136
00:58:30,011 --> 00:58:32,313
and try to get a little work
done, please?

1137
00:58:32,346 --> 00:58:34,682
Does anyone else
have an opinion on this?

1138
00:58:34,715 --> 00:58:35,850
Yes, I don't see any problem

1139
00:58:35,883 --> 00:58:37,051
with rearguing.

1140
00:58:37,084 --> 00:58:38,553
Nixon opposes abortion,

1141
00:58:38,586 --> 00:58:41,289
so I'm sure his new justices
will follow suit.

1142
00:58:41,322 --> 00:58:43,291
Two new justices
voting Nixon's way

1143
00:58:43,324 --> 00:58:44,659
will change the outcome here.

1144
00:58:44,692 --> 00:58:46,394
Political allegiance
should not affect

1145
00:58:46,427 --> 00:58:49,063
how we interpret
the Constitution, gentlemen.

1146
00:58:49,096 --> 00:58:50,331
Yes, and with that,

1147
00:58:50,364 --> 00:58:52,400
I'm appointing Harry
to pen the opinion.

1148
00:58:52,433 --> 00:58:54,635
I'm the senior justice
in the majority.

1149
00:58:54,669 --> 00:58:56,704
I've got to agree
with Bill, Warren.

1150
00:58:56,737 --> 00:58:58,506
- That's not standard protocol.
- I'm the chief justice.

1151
00:58:58,539 --> 00:58:59,841
I determine protocol.

1152
00:58:59,874 --> 00:59:02,543
You are trying to control this,
Warren, old buddy.

1153
00:59:02,577 --> 00:59:04,245
That is completely unethical.

1154
00:59:04,278 --> 00:59:05,880
Aren't you the one
that pushed this case?

1155
00:59:08,749 --> 00:59:10,384
All those in favor of rearguing?

1156
00:59:12,553 --> 00:59:13,588
<i>They voted six to one</i>

1157
00:59:13,621 --> 00:59:16,357
<i>to reargue Roe v. Wade.</i>

1158
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:19,827
There you go. That's it.

1159
00:59:19,861 --> 00:59:21,929
<i>Justice Douglas was the only one</i>

1160
00:59:21,963 --> 00:59:23,731
<i>to oppose
hearing the case again.</i>

1161
00:59:30,271 --> 00:59:31,639
- William?
- Hmm.

1162
00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:33,875
Bill.

1163
00:59:41,148 --> 00:59:42,683
It's a letter of protest

1164
00:59:42,717 --> 00:59:45,019
including my draft
dissent to reargue.

1165
00:59:45,052 --> 00:59:46,520
<i>The draft dissent</i>

1166
00:59:46,554 --> 00:59:49,957
<i>is a formal letter that outlines
Justice Douglas' reasons</i>

1167
00:59:49,991 --> 00:59:54,962
<i>as to why he thought Roe v. Wade
should not be reheard.</i>

1168
00:59:54,996 --> 00:59:56,430
And why are you
giving this to me?

1169
00:59:58,399 --> 01:00:01,402
Burger abused his power.

1170
01:00:01,435 --> 01:00:03,070
I'm the senior justice
after him,

1171
01:00:03,104 --> 01:00:05,406
he was supposed to
assign the case to me.

1172
01:00:05,439 --> 01:00:07,909
That's already been decided,
okay?

1173
01:00:07,942 --> 01:00:09,410
Get off that.

1174
01:00:09,443 --> 01:00:10,444
Chief Justice
is going to make sure

1175
01:00:10,478 --> 01:00:12,079
that we reargue this case.

1176
01:00:12,113 --> 01:00:15,750
The Senate just confirmed
Rehnquist and Powell.

1177
01:00:15,783 --> 01:00:18,052
That will flip the decision.

1178
01:00:18,085 --> 01:00:19,120
<i>You see, Justice Douglas</i>

1179
01:00:19,153 --> 01:00:21,055
<i>supported Jane Roe,</i>

1180
01:00:21,088 --> 01:00:23,291
<i>and right now, the vote
was four to three</i>

1181
01:00:23,325 --> 01:00:25,493
<i>in his favor to win.</i>

1182
01:00:25,526 --> 01:00:28,462
<i>He was afraid if there was
gonna be a reargument</i>

1183
01:00:28,496 --> 01:00:32,099
<i>with two new justices,
the vote would flip</i>

1184
01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:34,702
<i>and it would be five-four,
and he would lose.</i>

1185
01:00:40,474 --> 01:00:42,176
Has Burger seen this?

1186
01:00:42,209 --> 01:00:43,678
Not yet.

1187
01:00:46,381 --> 01:00:48,417
You cannot
send this letter to the press.

1188
01:00:48,449 --> 01:00:49,784
Promise me
you're voting with us.

1189
01:00:49,817 --> 01:00:51,152
How dare you!

1190
01:00:51,185 --> 01:00:53,587
Promise me now, or this is
going to be published.

1191
01:00:53,621 --> 01:00:55,289
You will disgrace the court.

1192
01:00:55,324 --> 01:00:57,258
If you don't wanna see that
in the Post,

1193
01:00:57,291 --> 01:00:58,960
you need to assure me
that a reargument

1194
01:00:58,993 --> 01:01:00,728
will not change your vote.

1195
01:01:19,513 --> 01:01:21,482
You need to
make an issue of this.

1196
01:01:21,515 --> 01:01:23,352
I don't
understand how a single justice

1197
01:01:23,385 --> 01:01:25,186
can order things his way.

1198
01:01:25,219 --> 01:01:26,988
Now you know how women feel.

1199
01:01:27,021 --> 01:01:28,656
I'm late, I have to
get to the clinic.

1200
01:01:28,689 --> 01:01:30,958
I wish you wouldn't spend
so much time at that place.

1201
01:01:30,992 --> 01:01:32,159
That place?

1202
01:01:32,193 --> 01:01:33,395
Planned Parenthood?

1203
01:01:33,428 --> 01:01:34,996
You don't want us
supporting women?

1204
01:01:37,098 --> 01:01:38,666
We'll talk about it later.

1205
01:01:38,699 --> 01:01:39,867
Okay.

1206
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,336
- Andy.
- William.

1207
01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:42,703
- You're looking lovely.
- Thank you.

1208
01:01:46,441 --> 01:01:47,842
Planned Parenthood?

1209
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:49,877
<i>Planned Parenthood?</i>

1210
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:53,382
<i>Nobody knew Justice Stewart's
wife worked there.</i>

1211
01:01:53,415 --> 01:01:55,317
You need to recuse yourself.

1212
01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:56,650
Look, Bill.

1213
01:01:56,684 --> 01:01:58,586
My wife volunteers there,
not me.

1214
01:01:58,619 --> 01:02:00,389
This is a major
conflict of interest.

1215
01:02:00,422 --> 01:02:02,690
If word got out.

1216
01:02:02,723 --> 01:02:04,925
Please, you need to
control your home.

1217
01:02:04,959 --> 01:02:07,194
What Burger did was worse.

1218
01:02:07,228 --> 01:02:08,763
He appointed Harry
to write the opinion.

1219
01:02:08,796 --> 01:02:11,198
That is a gross
abandonment of protocol.

1220
01:02:11,232 --> 01:02:13,034
We were ready
to vote this four-three.

1221
01:02:15,636 --> 01:02:18,373
Potter,
here's my letter and dissent.

1222
01:02:18,407 --> 01:02:19,940
You know what I resent?

1223
01:02:19,974 --> 01:02:21,776
I resent the fact
that Burger thinks

1224
01:02:21,809 --> 01:02:24,078
he has Rehnquist and Powell
in his pocket.

1225
01:02:24,111 --> 01:02:25,880
They're brand new,

1226
01:02:25,913 --> 01:02:27,681
and Burger acts
like he owns the court.

1227
01:02:27,715 --> 01:02:30,117
But he has no right to
hold this up for those two.

1228
01:02:30,151 --> 01:02:32,553
He wants to make sure
the vote goes his way,

1229
01:02:32,586 --> 01:02:34,688
that's why he's
demanding a reargument.

1230
01:02:34,722 --> 01:02:36,090
Right.
And that will flip the vote

1231
01:02:36,123 --> 01:02:37,725
and we lose five-four.

1232
01:02:37,758 --> 01:02:41,095
If we don't sort this out,
fur will fly today.

1233
01:02:56,445 --> 01:02:57,978
<i>You see, in the end,</i>

1234
01:02:58,012 --> 01:03:00,415
<i>it was Justice Stewart who
leaked the court's internal vote</i>

1235
01:03:00,449 --> 01:03:02,049
<i>to the</i> Washington Post.

1236
01:03:02,083 --> 01:03:04,553
<i>He wanted to stop the case
from being reheard</i>

1237
01:03:04,585 --> 01:03:07,254
<i>because he wanted abortion
legalized.</i>

1238
01:03:07,288 --> 01:03:09,123
So, Judge, how's the wife?

1239
01:03:09,156 --> 01:03:11,292
Cut the small talk, Bob.

1240
01:03:11,326 --> 01:03:13,462
Look, I understand
your wife was a volunteer

1241
01:03:13,495 --> 01:03:16,130
for Planned Parenthood.
Is that why we're here?

1242
01:03:16,163 --> 01:03:17,832
Absolutely not.

1243
01:03:17,865 --> 01:03:20,167
All my decisions have to do
with law and the Constitution.

1244
01:03:20,201 --> 01:03:21,702
Now, let's get this over with.

1245
01:03:28,709 --> 01:03:30,644
Are you sure you want to
give this to me?

1246
01:03:30,678 --> 01:03:31,946
Burger is gonna hit the roof

1247
01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:34,014
when he sees this
on the front page of the Post.

1248
01:03:34,048 --> 01:03:35,983
Yeah, well, he deserves it.

1249
01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:54,935
I wish
you hadn't given me this case.

1250
01:03:54,969 --> 01:03:56,471
Have you-have
you seen the Post this morning?

1251
01:03:56,505 --> 01:03:58,772
I saw it.

1252
01:03:58,806 --> 01:04:00,575
- I saw it!
- Now everyone knows how I voted.

1253
01:04:02,243 --> 01:04:03,878
The media
is outrageous.

1254
01:04:03,911 --> 01:04:06,348
Media? There's a leak!

1255
01:04:06,381 --> 01:04:08,583
The appetite for this nonsense
is only worse.

1256
01:04:10,217 --> 01:04:11,986
How long we been friends?

1257
01:04:12,019 --> 01:04:13,854
Dayton Bluff Elementary.

1258
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:17,158
It wasn't you, was it?

1259
01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:23,264
I'm sorry.

1260
01:04:25,099 --> 01:04:26,734
I'm out of sorts.

1261
01:04:26,767 --> 01:04:31,839
My family, my own family,
is up in arms about my vote.

1262
01:04:31,872 --> 01:04:32,973
They've been
watching television.

1263
01:04:33,007 --> 01:04:35,943
I don't-I don't know
what to do, Harry.

1264
01:04:42,850 --> 01:04:46,754
Warren.
I question my competency.

1265
01:04:48,523 --> 01:04:49,558
Don't.

1266
01:04:52,927 --> 01:04:55,930
Your decade of counsel
with the Mayo Clinic,

1267
01:04:57,365 --> 01:04:59,501
it will be very helpful here.

1268
01:04:59,534 --> 01:05:02,236
I've only been here a year.

1269
01:05:02,269 --> 01:05:05,072
We gotta control this, Harry.

1270
01:05:05,105 --> 01:05:06,441
It's gotten out of hand.

1271
01:05:06,474 --> 01:05:07,775
Do you know
what they're calling me?

1272
01:05:09,311 --> 01:05:10,778
Your boy.

1273
01:05:10,811 --> 01:05:16,351
They are calling me your boy,
the Minnesota Twin.

1274
01:05:16,384 --> 01:05:19,753
I trust you, Harry,
and I need your help.

1275
01:05:19,787 --> 01:05:21,255
I need your support here.

1276
01:05:27,962 --> 01:05:29,964
I'm on the fence.

1277
01:05:29,997 --> 01:05:31,732
Harry, with all this
public pressure,

1278
01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:33,067
we've got to get this right.

1279
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:35,970
We're going to be
remembered for this.

1280
01:05:36,003 --> 01:05:37,639
Perhaps this is
beyond the authority

1281
01:05:37,672 --> 01:05:39,073
of the Supreme Court.

1282
01:05:41,175 --> 01:05:43,811
We are the law
of the land, Harry.

1283
01:05:46,247 --> 01:05:47,915
We are the law of the land.

1284
01:05:53,488 --> 01:05:56,056
<i>Abortion
was still illegal in Texas.</i>

1285
01:05:56,090 --> 01:05:59,093
<i>So, every Friday, the flight
from Dallas to El Paso</i>

1286
01:05:59,126 --> 01:06:00,294
<i>was booked solid.</i>

1287
01:06:00,328 --> 01:06:01,329
<i>They landed</i>

1288
01:06:01,363 --> 01:06:02,597
<i>and crossed the border.</i>

1289
01:06:02,631 --> 01:06:04,999
<i>It was called
the Abortion Flight.</i>

1290
01:06:05,032 --> 01:06:06,568
<i>Planned Parenthood and NARAL</i>

1291
01:06:06,601 --> 01:06:08,670
<i>fundraised
at the Playboy Mansion.</i>

1292
01:06:08,703 --> 01:06:10,338
<i>I mean, it's kind of
hypocritical</i>

1293
01:06:10,372 --> 01:06:11,640
<i>that we exploited women</i>

1294
01:06:11,673 --> 01:06:13,240
<i>for women's rights,</i>

1295
01:06:13,274 --> 01:06:15,677
<i>but hey, anything
for a good cause.</i>

1296
01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:20,114
<i>Larry and I were on a roll.</i>

1297
01:06:20,147 --> 01:06:22,617
<i>We were performing
200 abortions a day,</i>

1298
01:06:22,651 --> 01:06:25,152
<i>which was making
my clinic 50 grand.</i>

1299
01:06:25,185 --> 01:06:28,155
<i>Today, that would be like
half a million a week.</i>

1300
01:06:37,666 --> 01:06:41,035
And that's how
I became a published author.

1301
01:06:41,068 --> 01:06:42,604
That's so far out.

1302
01:06:42,637 --> 01:06:43,871
You know,
Larry here changed the laws

1303
01:06:43,904 --> 01:06:46,140
in half the country,
singlehandedly.

1304
01:06:46,173 --> 01:06:48,476
Bernie and I own
most of the clinics in New York.

1305
01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:50,210
Oh, my god. That's sick.

1306
01:06:50,244 --> 01:06:51,613
And how did you do that?

1307
01:06:51,646 --> 01:06:53,180
We control the media.

1308
01:06:53,213 --> 01:06:55,015
Get real.

1309
01:06:55,049 --> 01:06:56,116
We do.

1310
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:57,951
They write
whatever we tell them.

1311
01:06:57,985 --> 01:07:00,187
This one time,
we got the <i>New York Times</i>

1312
01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:01,489
to publish a poll

1313
01:07:01,523 --> 01:07:04,659
on how many doctors
were in favor of abortion.

1314
01:07:04,693 --> 01:07:06,795
We said 87% sounded good.

1315
01:07:06,827 --> 01:07:09,497
How many doctors again
was that out of, Larry?

1316
01:07:09,531 --> 01:07:11,165
About 40,000, I think.

1317
01:07:11,198 --> 01:07:13,200
Can you believe
they printed that?

1318
01:07:13,233 --> 01:07:14,636
And then, we got them to say

1319
01:07:14,669 --> 01:07:18,473
that 60% of Americans
favored abortion.

1320
01:07:18,506 --> 01:07:20,841
Why didn't you guys
just do a real poll?

1321
01:07:20,874 --> 01:07:23,143
<i>Because
if a real poll was taken,</i>

1322
01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:26,914
<i>nowhere near 60% of Americans
favored abortion.</i>

1323
01:07:26,947 --> 01:07:30,884
<i>So, we made it up, and the media
didn't even question it.</i>

1324
01:07:30,918 --> 01:07:33,655
<i>This is a tactic
of the self-fulfilling lie.</i>

1325
01:07:33,688 --> 01:07:37,057
<i>You see, few people
care to be in the minority.</i>

1326
01:07:37,091 --> 01:07:38,992
There's nowhere near
a half a million women

1327
01:07:39,026 --> 01:07:40,395
- are having back alley abortions.
- Yeah. You see,

1328
01:07:40,428 --> 01:07:42,764
if you keep repeating
the big lie over and over again,

1329
01:07:42,797 --> 01:07:45,032
it generally
convinces the public.

1330
01:07:45,065 --> 01:07:47,369
Well, 10,000 women die
from back alley abortions.

1331
01:07:49,103 --> 01:07:50,405
- What?
- Larry, wait.

1332
01:07:50,438 --> 01:07:51,840
We made that up, too.

1333
01:07:51,872 --> 01:07:54,007
Yeah, those are my statistics
I came up with.

1334
01:07:54,041 --> 01:07:56,378
- Yeah!
- You guys lied?

1335
01:07:56,411 --> 01:07:57,612
I wouldn't call it lying.

1336
01:07:57,645 --> 01:07:58,780
Yeah, it was
for the greater good.

1337
01:07:58,813 --> 01:08:01,583
Planned Parenthood,
they also helped.

1338
01:08:02,817 --> 01:08:04,352
And no one found out?

1339
01:08:04,386 --> 01:08:08,790
Found out?
Honey, the media was in on it.

1340
01:08:08,823 --> 01:08:11,793
You see, for example,
if you check out <i>Time Magazine,</i>

1341
01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:14,362
we planted four
pro-abortion stories

1342
01:08:14,396 --> 01:08:15,463
every year.

1343
01:08:15,497 --> 01:08:19,434
So, 1969, and we have it in

1344
01:08:19,467 --> 01:08:21,235
March, September,
two in November.

1345
01:08:21,268 --> 01:08:24,572
In 1970, February,
March, April, September,

1346
01:08:24,606 --> 01:08:27,274
in '71, March, May,
September, November,

1347
01:08:27,308 --> 01:08:28,309
and so on and so forth.

1348
01:08:28,343 --> 01:08:29,910
We kept doing it.

1349
01:08:29,943 --> 01:08:32,146
We also put pro-abortion
stories in TV shows and films.

1350
01:08:32,179 --> 01:08:33,548
Yeah, remember that movie...

1351
01:08:33,581 --> 01:08:35,884
oh, what was it...
<i>Cabaret</i> with Liza Minelli?

1352
01:08:35,916 --> 01:08:37,251
Yes.

1353
01:08:37,284 --> 01:08:42,624
Okay, wait!
<i>Time Magazine.</i> Really?

1354
01:08:42,657 --> 01:08:44,191
And how did you guys do that?

1355
01:08:45,693 --> 01:08:47,662
We used each other as sources.

1356
01:09:00,809 --> 01:09:02,477
Should we really be
doing this on Mother's Day?

1357
01:09:02,510 --> 01:09:04,111
Exactly.

1358
01:09:04,144 --> 01:09:05,045
All right.

1359
01:09:09,784 --> 01:09:11,653
How's the rally going, bubalah?

1360
01:09:12,821 --> 01:09:14,589
Yeah, hi.

1361
01:09:14,622 --> 01:09:16,290
<i>Larry got
commissions by referring women</i>

1362
01:09:16,324 --> 01:09:18,860
<i>to abortionists
all over the country.</i>

1363
01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:22,296
<i>In Chicago, he even used rabbis
and Protestant clergy</i>

1364
01:09:22,330 --> 01:09:24,466
<i>to help find them doctors.</i>

1365
01:09:24,499 --> 01:09:26,200
Is my referral there?

1366
01:09:26,233 --> 01:09:28,369
With me, as we speak.

1367
01:09:29,804 --> 01:09:31,171
Okay, good.

1368
01:09:35,008 --> 01:09:36,344
Yeah, I gotta run.

1369
01:09:37,512 --> 01:09:39,213
Such a good guy, that Larry,

1370
01:09:39,246 --> 01:09:41,649
making sure
the two of you are okay.

1371
01:09:42,851 --> 01:09:45,219
I really need to
get this done soon.

1372
01:09:45,252 --> 01:09:47,555
I-I recommend
going to New York.

1373
01:09:47,589 --> 01:09:51,559
Larry's partner Bernie,
he's terrific.

1374
01:09:51,593 --> 01:09:54,161
You don't have anyone
in Chicago?

1375
01:09:54,194 --> 01:09:57,332
I can't leave.
What do I tell my husband?

1376
01:09:57,365 --> 01:09:58,566
Oh, jeez.

1377
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,735
Oy vey,
you're not the husband?

1378
01:10:01,903 --> 01:10:03,605
You know it's not legal here.

1379
01:10:04,772 --> 01:10:07,575
Please, Rabbi, I-I beg you.

1380
01:10:07,609 --> 01:10:08,810
Don't cry, don't cry.

1381
01:10:08,843 --> 01:10:12,145
It's okay. It's okay.
Go see Dr. Ketchum.

1382
01:10:12,179 --> 01:10:14,147
He's not bad.

1383
01:10:14,181 --> 01:10:15,683
And we're not
gonna get in trouble?

1384
01:10:15,717 --> 01:10:18,553
Oh, boychik,
I take care of everything.

1385
01:10:19,888 --> 01:10:20,788
Okay.

1386
01:10:22,022 --> 01:10:24,057
Thank you.

1387
01:10:24,091 --> 01:10:26,594
Dozens write
amicus briefs, and we get four.

1388
01:10:27,862 --> 01:10:29,229
They lied to Rockefeller

1389
01:10:29,263 --> 01:10:30,899
about the numbers on abortion,

1390
01:10:30,932 --> 01:10:33,200
and New York fell
just like that.

1391
01:10:33,233 --> 01:10:35,904
When you see
a kid out of law school

1392
01:10:35,937 --> 01:10:38,406
get to argue to
the highest court in Texas,

1393
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,842
and you can't get
a job promotion.

1394
01:10:40,875 --> 01:10:42,944
I could have become
a cause célèbre

1395
01:10:42,977 --> 01:10:45,380
if I had taken it up to court,

1396
01:10:45,413 --> 01:10:48,215
but it's about knowing
the price of the game.

1397
01:10:48,248 --> 01:10:50,852
I wouldn't have waited
20 years; I'd have sued them.

1398
01:10:50,885 --> 01:10:54,689
It will be easier
for those coming behind me.

1399
01:10:54,722 --> 01:10:57,224
You don't always
have to be so strong.

1400
01:10:57,257 --> 01:10:59,126
It's not really fair.

1401
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:01,194
Life isn't fair.

1402
01:11:01,228 --> 01:11:03,565
It doesn't mean I condone it.

1403
01:11:03,598 --> 01:11:06,266
When given a choice of being
kind or right, be kind.

1404
01:11:08,002 --> 01:11:09,136
You can be angry, Mildred.

1405
01:11:11,606 --> 01:11:14,042
You certainly
have been a role model.

1406
01:11:16,945 --> 01:11:18,780
Planned Parenthood
and Larry Lader

1407
01:11:18,813 --> 01:11:21,482
are running seminars to set up
clinics across the country.

1408
01:11:21,516 --> 01:11:23,116
And not to mention Nathanson.

1409
01:11:23,150 --> 01:11:25,787
Oh. Maybe I should
pay him a visit,

1410
01:11:25,820 --> 01:11:27,154
doctor to doctor.

1411
01:11:27,187 --> 01:11:28,590
Good luck with that.

1412
01:11:28,623 --> 01:11:30,123
They're making too much money
off these clinics.

1413
01:11:30,157 --> 01:11:31,726
Not to mention the illegal ones.

1414
01:11:31,759 --> 01:11:33,328
We have to be willing
to get arrested

1415
01:11:33,361 --> 01:11:35,463
for our beliefs
just like they are.

1416
01:11:35,496 --> 01:11:37,799
Illegal abortion houses,
that's class warfare.

1417
01:11:41,536 --> 01:11:43,771
I'll reach out to the DAs
across the country.

1418
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:45,974
What are you thinking?

1419
01:11:48,275 --> 01:11:49,344
Let's see just how many times

1420
01:11:49,377 --> 01:11:51,111
they're really willing
to get arrested.

1421
01:12:01,723 --> 01:12:03,358
Come on. Let's go.

1422
01:12:03,391 --> 01:12:05,093
<i>We had secret abortion clinics</i>

1423
01:12:05,158 --> 01:12:06,761
- <i>across the country,</i>
- Get in here.

1424
01:12:06,794 --> 01:12:08,863
<i>for girls
who couldn't get to New York.</i>

1425
01:12:08,896 --> 01:12:11,799
<i>Part of our referral network
consisted of rabbis</i>

1426
01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:15,268
<i>and Protestant clergy
that helped set them up.</i>

1427
01:12:15,302 --> 01:12:17,872
<i>Sometimes, we even used
five-star hotels.</i>

1428
01:12:43,031 --> 01:12:44,132
Freeze!

1429
01:12:44,164 --> 01:12:46,166
Hands in the air
where I can see them.

1430
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:47,568
This is the one.
Right here, guys, right here.

1431
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:49,871
Chicago PD!

1432
01:12:49,904 --> 01:12:50,972
Put your gun down.

1433
01:12:51,005 --> 01:12:52,340
Hey, watch it!

1434
01:12:52,373 --> 01:12:54,375
Stop right there!

1435
01:12:54,409 --> 01:12:56,176
Where do you think you're going?

1436
01:12:56,209 --> 01:12:59,212
He thinks
he can get out the window.

1437
01:12:59,246 --> 01:13:00,515
Stop what you're doing.

1438
01:13:00,548 --> 01:13:01,516
Can you cuff him, please.

1439
01:13:01,549 --> 01:13:03,017
Hey, stop
what you're doing, Pops.

1440
01:13:03,051 --> 01:13:05,720
This is an operating room!
You have no authority here!

1441
01:13:10,458 --> 01:13:12,225
Are you okay?

1442
01:13:18,433 --> 01:13:20,300
Oh, my god.

1443
01:13:30,144 --> 01:13:32,580
<i>The rabbis
and pastors getting arrested</i>

1444
01:13:32,613 --> 01:13:34,949
<i>brought down one of our
biggest referral networks.</i>

1445
01:13:40,421 --> 01:13:41,656
Is everything okay?

1446
01:13:43,256 --> 01:13:45,593
I just hope what we're doing
is making women feel safer.

1447
01:13:48,629 --> 01:13:50,398
You should be so proud.

1448
01:13:50,431 --> 01:13:52,533
A young woman is arguing

1449
01:13:52,567 --> 01:13:55,536
in front of the Supreme Court
because of you.

1450
01:13:55,570 --> 01:13:56,938
I thought
I would have had envy,

1451
01:13:56,971 --> 01:14:02,543
but all I felt after all of it
was proud of Sarah,

1452
01:14:02,577 --> 01:14:04,645
and hope this will open the gate
for women to come.

1453
01:14:08,248 --> 01:14:10,485
One of our clinics
was just busted.

1454
01:14:10,518 --> 01:14:12,220
Ugh.

1455
01:14:12,252 --> 01:14:14,989
Sixteen clergy,
four rabbis, all arrested.

1456
01:14:15,022 --> 01:14:16,791
We have to protect these kids.

1457
01:14:16,824 --> 01:14:19,494
We have to make sure
they have safe doctors.

1458
01:14:19,527 --> 01:14:22,130
These raids can't be setbacks.

1459
01:14:22,163 --> 01:14:25,767
We have to keep working
for abortion on demand.

1460
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,769
It makes us look like
we're in it for the money.

1461
01:14:27,802 --> 01:14:28,803
It's just disgraceful.

1462
01:14:28,836 --> 01:14:30,972
No, quit exaggerating, Bernie.

1463
01:14:31,005 --> 01:14:32,406
You know what it's gonna do
to me and my family

1464
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,109
- and my reputation?
- Oh, this is-this is about you?

1465
01:14:35,143 --> 01:14:37,478
Bernie? Is this about you
and the money?

1466
01:14:37,512 --> 01:14:38,613
It's not about me.

1467
01:14:40,014 --> 01:14:41,215
It's about the girls.

1468
01:14:42,617 --> 01:14:43,851
You're not there.

1469
01:14:43,885 --> 01:14:45,653
Yeah, okay.
Quit exaggerating, Bernie.

1470
01:14:47,622 --> 01:14:49,557
You don't see
all the girls I save.

1471
01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:00,835
I became a physician

1472
01:15:00,868 --> 01:15:03,037
in the tradition
that obliges society

1473
01:15:03,070 --> 01:15:05,640
to expect a doctor
to save lives,

1474
01:15:05,673 --> 01:15:07,175
not kill them.

1475
01:15:07,208 --> 01:15:09,210
There goes your
Hippocratic oath.

1476
01:15:09,243 --> 01:15:12,313
Tell that to Nathanson, Mother.

1477
01:15:12,346 --> 01:15:17,985
Dr. King said, "We cannot win
if we're willing to sacrifice

1478
01:15:18,019 --> 01:15:20,188
the futures of our children

1479
01:15:20,221 --> 01:15:22,690
for immediate personal
comfort and safety."

1480
01:15:22,723 --> 01:15:24,992
I am not willing to allow

1481
01:15:25,026 --> 01:15:28,563
the concept
of expendable human lives

1482
01:15:28,596 --> 01:15:30,998
to turn this land of ours

1483
01:15:31,032 --> 01:15:34,402
into just another
exclusive reservation,

1484
01:15:34,435 --> 01:15:35,803
where only the planned,

1485
01:15:35,837 --> 01:15:38,039
the privileged, and the perfect

1486
01:15:38,072 --> 01:15:39,507
have the right to live.

1487
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:41,042
<i>my saying this to you,</i>

1488
01:15:41,075 --> 01:15:42,510
<i>we're free.</i>

1489
01:15:42,543 --> 01:15:44,679
<i>We finally have the right
to decide what we can do</i>

1490
01:15:44,712 --> 01:15:46,013
<i>with our own body.</i>

1491
01:15:46,047 --> 01:15:47,348
<i>All right.
Then, will you please get yours</i>

1492
01:15:47,381 --> 01:15:48,382
<i>into the kitchen.</i>

1493
01:15:50,051 --> 01:15:52,720
- You're just scared.
- I am not scared!

1494
01:15:52,753 --> 01:15:55,723
You are, and it's as simple as
gong to the dentist.

1495
01:15:57,391 --> 01:16:00,394
As simple as
going to the dentist?

1496
01:16:00,428 --> 01:16:06,067
Oh.
I scream, they scream louder.

1497
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,338
We raise money,
they raise more.

1498
01:16:09,370 --> 01:16:11,572
They have Hollywood
on their side.

1499
01:16:11,606 --> 01:16:17,411
Dr. Nathanson, I heard he gave
them $10,000 to air that.

1500
01:16:19,747 --> 01:16:23,284
<i>Lewis Powell is from Virginia.</i>

1501
01:16:23,318 --> 01:16:25,686
<i>But like another
great Virginian,</i>

1502
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,224
<i>Chief Justice Marshall,
Lewis Powell is recognized</i>

1503
01:16:30,258 --> 01:16:32,293
<i>by his legal colleagues
throughout the nation</i>

1504
01:16:32,327 --> 01:16:35,129
<i>as being a man
who represents not just</i>

1505
01:16:35,162 --> 01:16:37,732
<i>Virginia and the South.</i>

1506
01:16:37,765 --> 01:16:41,936
<i>He is first and foremost,
a very great American.</i>

1507
01:16:44,672 --> 01:16:46,607
<i>William Rehnquist</i>

1508
01:16:46,641 --> 01:16:49,076
<i>has been outstanding
in every intellectual endeavor</i>

1509
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:51,112
<i>he has undertaken.</i>

1510
01:16:51,145 --> 01:16:53,581
<i>He was graduated
from Stanford University,</i>

1511
01:16:53,614 --> 01:16:56,217
<i>Phi Beta Kappa, 1948.</i>

1512
01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:57,251
<i>He graduated</i>

1513
01:16:57,285 --> 01:16:59,153
<i>first in his class</i>

1514
01:16:59,186 --> 01:17:01,589
<i>from the Stanford University
Law School in 1942.</i>

1515
01:17:05,259 --> 01:17:06,527
You missed
the more important news!

1516
01:17:07,695 --> 01:17:08,829
We got the majority.

1517
01:17:10,131 --> 01:17:11,899
We're gonna win.

1518
01:17:11,933 --> 01:17:13,901
<i>The two new
justices were conservatives.</i>

1519
01:17:13,935 --> 01:17:15,636
<i>So, when we go back into court,</i>

1520
01:17:15,670 --> 01:17:18,606
<i>the vote will swing their way
five to four.</i>

1521
01:17:18,639 --> 01:17:20,141
<i>We're gonna lose.</i>

1522
01:17:21,642 --> 01:17:22,877
I wouldn't count on that.

1523
01:17:24,545 --> 01:17:27,281
We still have
a lot of work to do.

1524
01:17:27,316 --> 01:17:32,586
I've tried Nathanson's service.
He won't return my calls.

1525
01:17:32,620 --> 01:17:35,623
Have you tried heading over
to Planned Parenthood?

1526
01:17:35,656 --> 01:17:38,092
I'm not going there
to get lynched.

1527
01:17:38,125 --> 01:17:39,794
I'll just head over
to the hospital.

1528
01:17:40,895 --> 01:17:42,997
Are you going to go
after the clergy?

1529
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:45,099
I'm gonna go with the industry.

1530
01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:47,868
Robert,
no one sees the industry.

1531
01:17:47,902 --> 01:17:49,036
It's invisible.

1532
01:17:49,070 --> 01:17:51,306
The cause is hopeless
in secular terms.

1533
01:17:51,340 --> 01:17:52,374
The effort is only worth it

1534
01:17:52,407 --> 01:17:54,008
if it's part of
a larger enterprise:

1535
01:17:54,041 --> 01:17:55,776
the reconversion of this nation.

1536
01:17:55,810 --> 01:17:56,944
To what?

1537
01:17:56,978 --> 01:17:59,381
Faith in God,
respect for His law.

1538
01:17:59,414 --> 01:18:00,815
That law being?

1539
01:18:00,848 --> 01:18:03,718
Human law, which cannot
tolerate the intentional killing

1540
01:18:03,751 --> 01:18:05,454
of innocent human beings.

1541
01:18:05,486 --> 01:18:07,054
Yeah, but the separation
of church and state

1542
01:18:07,088 --> 01:18:08,357
is in the Constitution.

1543
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:10,291
That's a common misconception.

1544
01:18:10,325 --> 01:18:11,959
The Constitution provides
freedom of religion,

1545
01:18:11,993 --> 01:18:13,160
not separation.

1546
01:18:14,495 --> 01:18:16,530
Our laws are based
in God's principle,

1547
01:18:16,564 --> 01:18:18,065
"Thou shalt not kill."

1548
01:18:18,099 --> 01:18:21,802
Ellen, you did a great job
organizing this.

1549
01:18:21,836 --> 01:18:22,703
Thank you.

1550
01:18:26,207 --> 01:18:29,043
The Ninth Amendment isn't
some bottomless pit of rights

1551
01:18:29,076 --> 01:18:32,813
that we can abuse anytime
we find a case confuses us.

1552
01:18:32,847 --> 01:18:34,515
What part of the Constitution

1553
01:18:34,548 --> 01:18:38,919
says that a woman does not
have a right to an abortion?

1554
01:18:38,953 --> 01:18:42,056
Freedom to choose - too vague.
Freedom to choose what?

1555
01:18:42,089 --> 01:18:43,557
Prove medically
and scientifically

1556
01:18:43,591 --> 01:18:46,594
that a new fetus is a-a someone.

1557
01:18:46,627 --> 01:18:49,196
Even the doctors say
there is human life.

1558
01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:51,565
Human life from
the moment of conception,

1559
01:18:51,599 --> 01:18:53,267
in the embryonic state.

1560
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:56,338
Yeah, look.
You're new to the court,

1561
01:18:56,371 --> 01:18:59,374
and Mrs. Weddington presents
a thought-out argument

1562
01:18:59,408 --> 01:19:01,443
for women's rights.

1563
01:19:01,476 --> 01:19:03,544
You've been watching
too much TV.

1564
01:19:03,577 --> 01:19:06,714
This case has nothing to do
with women's rights.

1565
01:19:06,747 --> 01:19:08,115
Does a woman, a mother,

1566
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:12,586
have the right to kill
her own child?

1567
01:19:12,620 --> 01:19:14,423
I'll argue that case separately.

1568
01:19:14,456 --> 01:19:16,425
It's not her child, just yet.

1569
01:19:16,458 --> 01:19:17,792
Whose child is it?

1570
01:19:17,825 --> 01:19:19,394
The mother's? Father's?
The state's?

1571
01:19:20,928 --> 01:19:23,532
You've only just been appointed,

1572
01:19:23,564 --> 01:19:26,233
and already you're playing into
the hands of public opinion.

1573
01:19:27,668 --> 01:19:30,938
Byron, get off your high horse

1574
01:19:30,971 --> 01:19:33,341
and make a constitutional
decision.

1575
01:19:35,776 --> 01:19:38,245
I am making
a constitutional decision.

1576
01:19:40,482 --> 01:19:42,317
She stated on several occasions

1577
01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:44,386
that they are dismissing
the Hippocratic oath,

1578
01:19:44,419 --> 01:19:45,820
the very oath

1579
01:19:47,588 --> 01:19:50,758
that says doctors
need to protect life.

1580
01:19:50,791 --> 01:19:53,794
It also states very clearly

1581
01:19:53,828 --> 01:19:57,932
that a woman should not be given
an abortive remedy.

1582
01:19:57,965 --> 01:20:00,134
That's what you're basing
your decision on,

1583
01:20:00,167 --> 01:20:01,268
the Hippocratic oath.

1584
01:20:02,837 --> 01:20:04,271
It's not 400 B.C.

1585
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,943
The 1948 Declaration of Geneva

1586
01:20:08,976 --> 01:20:13,080
as well as the International
Code of Medical Ethics

1587
01:20:13,114 --> 01:20:19,687
both clearly state
that doctors must protect life.

1588
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,123
From the point of conception.

1589
01:20:22,156 --> 01:20:25,126
May I remind you, sir,

1590
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,928
you're on the United States
Supreme Court,

1591
01:20:27,962 --> 01:20:30,164
not on an international
medical board.

1592
01:20:32,032 --> 01:20:36,471
We have an opportunity here
to make things right.

1593
01:20:36,505 --> 01:20:40,040
We have an opportunity here
to get things right.

1594
01:20:40,074 --> 01:20:42,710
I fear if we vote in favor of

1595
01:20:42,743 --> 01:20:44,613
removing the rights
of the fetus,

1596
01:20:44,645 --> 01:20:48,149
that we are simply
blowing this whole thing.

1597
01:20:48,182 --> 01:20:52,119
Hm-mm.
Roe isn't about right or wrong.

1598
01:20:52,153 --> 01:20:54,121
It's about what's stated
in the law.

1599
01:20:54,155 --> 01:20:59,727
All due respect, Justice,
if you don't realize that,

1600
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,864
you shouldn't be on the court.
Hm?

1601
01:21:03,898 --> 01:21:07,835
Church and state are separate
for a reason.

1602
01:21:07,868 --> 01:21:09,703
It's God's duty to forgive.

1603
01:21:12,039 --> 01:21:15,343
It's ours to rule the law.

1604
01:21:15,377 --> 01:21:22,350
This has nothing whatsoever
to do with church and state.

1605
01:21:22,384 --> 01:21:25,052
This is strictly
a constitutional matter,

1606
01:21:26,754 --> 01:21:29,457
life and liberty.

1607
01:21:31,091 --> 01:21:32,293
Or have you forgotten that?

1608
01:21:36,096 --> 01:21:37,365
Justice?

1609
01:21:42,537 --> 01:21:44,673
Wade got Robert Flowers
to argue.

1610
01:21:44,705 --> 01:21:46,474
He was handpicked
by the Texas attorney general.

1611
01:21:48,142 --> 01:21:49,611
How you boys and gals doing?

1612
01:21:51,111 --> 01:21:54,081
Have you seen how the whole
media supports Weddington?

1613
01:21:54,114 --> 01:21:56,083
Well, we better
get to work then.

1614
01:21:56,116 --> 01:21:59,119
I created a moot court
based on Griswald and Vuitch.

1615
01:21:59,153 --> 01:22:01,922
We can set up and start
to fire questions.

1616
01:22:01,956 --> 01:22:03,358
My boys don't need schooling

1617
01:22:03,391 --> 01:22:06,293
by a bunch of kids
from New York City.

1618
01:22:06,328 --> 01:22:07,294
It's going to be
you and your boys

1619
01:22:07,329 --> 01:22:08,697
versus the whole country.

1620
01:22:08,729 --> 01:22:11,700
Well, don't tell me,
I know the law!

1621
01:22:11,732 --> 01:22:13,767
I know you do.
I'm worried.

1622
01:22:15,604 --> 01:22:17,071
"The greatest act of faith
is when a man understands

1623
01:22:17,104 --> 01:22:18,640
that he is not God."

1624
01:22:18,673 --> 01:22:20,609
Oliver Wendell Holmes.

1625
01:22:20,642 --> 01:22:22,910
It might be a good idea, Henry.

1626
01:22:22,943 --> 01:22:24,011
I'm listening.

1627
01:22:26,514 --> 01:22:27,649
What else you got for us, Bob?

1628
01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:31,218
I filed with the court
to become guardian ad litem

1629
01:22:31,252 --> 01:22:33,087
to all the unborn children
in the State of New York.

1630
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,323
How'd you manage that?

1631
01:22:35,357 --> 01:22:36,790
The unborn has rights
in the area of the law

1632
01:22:36,824 --> 01:22:38,627
from probate to criminal.

1633
01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:40,995
In the Constitution, a person
cannot be deprived due process

1634
01:22:41,028 --> 01:22:42,997
or denied equal protection.

1635
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:44,898
- Okay.
- So, the unborn have a right

1636
01:22:44,932 --> 01:22:47,502
to an attorney just like
everybody else in America?

1637
01:22:49,103 --> 01:22:50,572
It's brilliant!

1638
01:22:50,605 --> 01:22:52,574
Larry, you convinced me
to open a clinic,

1639
01:22:52,607 --> 01:22:54,643
abortion is illegal again
in New York.

1640
01:22:54,676 --> 01:22:56,277
What are you talking about?

1641
01:22:56,311 --> 01:22:58,779
I'm gonna lose everything
to that guardian of the unborn.

1642
01:22:58,812 --> 01:22:59,947
I wouldn't worry about it.

1643
01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:00,914
Guardian of the unborn,

1644
01:23:00,948 --> 01:23:02,450
it sounds like a superhero.

1645
01:23:02,484 --> 01:23:03,418
How can the Catholics

1646
01:23:03,451 --> 01:23:05,286
use the court to make a law?

1647
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,589
Well, isn't
that what we're going to do?

1648
01:23:07,622 --> 01:23:09,290
You boys are
only in favor of abortion

1649
01:23:09,324 --> 01:23:12,059
because it's cheaper
than child support.

1650
01:23:14,329 --> 01:23:15,630
Equality!

1651
01:23:15,664 --> 01:23:16,765
Let's not forget,

1652
01:23:16,797 --> 01:23:18,165
this is also about
population control.

1653
01:23:18,198 --> 01:23:20,167
This is about women's rights.

1654
01:23:21,469 --> 01:23:24,138
You're still in love
with Margaret Sanger!

1655
01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:25,473
What are you talking about?

1656
01:23:25,507 --> 01:23:28,976
She opposed abortion.
I read her autobiography.

1657
01:23:29,009 --> 01:23:31,379
Oh, the founder of Planned
Parenthood opposed abortion?

1658
01:23:31,413 --> 01:23:32,946
She'd be for it today.

1659
01:23:32,980 --> 01:23:35,816
She said it was a disgrace
to our civilization.

1660
01:23:35,849 --> 01:23:38,118
Quote, "There should be no
killing of babies in the womb,"

1661
01:23:38,152 --> 01:23:39,853
end quote.

1662
01:23:39,887 --> 01:23:41,356
I founded this movement.

1663
01:23:41,389 --> 01:23:43,057
- This is about you?
- Yeah!

1664
01:23:43,090 --> 01:23:45,527
This is about
the State of Larry Lader?

1665
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,529
Look around you.

1666
01:23:47,562 --> 01:23:50,465
Who do you think is winning
your dirty little secret war?

1667
01:23:50,498 --> 01:23:53,735
I am looking.
Look what I've created.

1668
01:23:53,768 --> 01:23:55,035
Planned Parenthood
and half the doctors

1669
01:23:55,069 --> 01:23:56,504
pay you referral fees.

1670
01:23:56,538 --> 01:23:59,374
And you have the women
of the world to thank for that!

1671
01:24:00,675 --> 01:24:02,276
And how much you getting
from your clinic, Doc?

1672
01:24:05,112 --> 01:24:06,381
Equality!

1673
01:24:17,625 --> 01:24:18,626
You haven't touched your food.

1674
01:24:20,127 --> 01:24:21,061
Hm?

1675
01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:27,234
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's this damn case.

1676
01:24:27,267 --> 01:24:29,437
Well, which way are you
leaning towards, Dad?

1677
01:24:29,471 --> 01:24:31,740
I'm not gonna
get into any of that.

1678
01:24:31,773 --> 01:24:33,073
Good try.

1679
01:24:33,107 --> 01:24:34,942
Sally's volunteering
at Planned Parenthood.

1680
01:24:34,975 --> 01:24:36,845
Stop changing the subject.

1681
01:24:36,877 --> 01:24:39,781
Oh, Planned Parenthood, that's-
that's great, sweetheart.

1682
01:24:39,814 --> 01:24:41,516
<i>Now, that's the second justice</i>

1683
01:24:41,549 --> 01:24:44,586
<i>with a family member
working for Planned Parenthood.</i>

1684
01:24:44,619 --> 01:24:48,390
<i>First Stewart's wife,
and now Blackmun's daughter.</i>

1685
01:24:48,423 --> 01:24:49,557
<i>Hm.</i>

1686
01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:51,459
You know,
it's not only about abortion.

1687
01:24:52,627 --> 01:24:53,795
Did you see 20,000 women

1688
01:24:53,828 --> 01:24:55,563
marching for equality
in New York?

1689
01:24:57,064 --> 01:24:58,867
Twenty thousand,
is that right?

1690
01:24:58,899 --> 01:25:00,769
It's about time
we had our own rights.

1691
01:25:03,838 --> 01:25:06,541
Do you want your daughter to be
able to become justice one day?

1692
01:25:06,574 --> 01:25:07,675
Why...

1693
01:25:09,143 --> 01:25:11,044
so you're saying

1694
01:25:11,078 --> 01:25:14,449
if I vote the other way,
I'm voting against women?

1695
01:25:14,482 --> 01:25:17,050
Yes, you are.

1696
01:25:17,084 --> 01:25:20,254
Just listen to her, Dad.
Come on, it's important.

1697
01:25:20,287 --> 01:25:21,656
I'm with the girls.

1698
01:25:24,325 --> 01:25:25,693
Make us proud, Harry.

1699
01:25:34,968 --> 01:25:36,103
I know why you gave me this

1700
01:25:36,136 --> 01:25:38,473
but you should've let
Douglas write it.

1701
01:25:38,506 --> 01:25:41,175
After my vote hit the media,

1702
01:25:41,208 --> 01:25:43,812
my family
almost fell apart over it.

1703
01:25:43,845 --> 01:25:46,079
So, you might be
changing your vote

1704
01:25:46,113 --> 01:25:49,049
because your family found out?
Or was it the media?

1705
01:25:52,554 --> 01:25:53,488
Warren.

1706
01:25:57,692 --> 01:25:59,960
You wanted to talk.

1707
01:25:59,993 --> 01:26:00,994
Yes, I did.

1708
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:04,031
I wanna see
where you stand, Harry.

1709
01:26:04,064 --> 01:26:06,768
I'm hoping
we're on the same page.

1710
01:26:06,801 --> 01:26:08,268
Byron, I don't know
what page I'm on.

1711
01:26:08,302 --> 01:26:10,672
I'm not even sure we're
reading from the same book.

1712
01:26:10,705 --> 01:26:14,375
I just-I'm trying to vote along
the lines of the Constitution.

1713
01:26:14,409 --> 01:26:16,511
Does the Bill of Rights
allow a woman

1714
01:26:16,544 --> 01:26:18,847
to kill her unborn child?

1715
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,180
It's a very simple question.

1716
01:26:20,214 --> 01:26:21,549
No, it's not
a simple question.

1717
01:26:21,583 --> 01:26:24,719
The question is,
when does a fetus become a life?

1718
01:26:24,752 --> 01:26:26,955
At the point of conception,
Harry. When else?

1719
01:26:26,987 --> 01:26:29,958
Well, that hasn't been
determined yet, has it?

1720
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:33,328
And if it had, we wouldn't be
having this conflict

1721
01:26:33,361 --> 01:26:34,729
in our conversation.

1722
01:26:34,762 --> 01:26:36,698
Sure, Bill. Why don't you
just sit down and join us.

1723
01:26:36,731 --> 01:26:39,066
What we need to discuss
is the right to privacy.

1724
01:26:39,099 --> 01:26:40,702
What?

1725
01:26:40,735 --> 01:26:42,737
Listen, our job is to
interpret the Constitution.

1726
01:26:42,770 --> 01:26:44,539
Our job is not to create law.

1727
01:26:44,572 --> 01:26:46,975
If you wanna make a new law,
you take it up with Congress.

1728
01:26:47,007 --> 01:26:49,511
We already ruled on that.
Griswold v. Connecticut.

1729
01:26:49,544 --> 01:26:50,912
- Unrelated.
- Absolutely.

1730
01:26:50,945 --> 01:26:52,480
- Unrelated.
- Absolutely.

1731
01:26:52,514 --> 01:26:53,748
He-he's right.

1732
01:26:53,781 --> 01:26:55,850
Right to privacy between
a patient and a doctor.

1733
01:26:57,385 --> 01:27:00,522
At minimum, Byron,
it's something I think

1734
01:27:00,555 --> 01:27:03,090
we should at least consider.

1735
01:27:03,123 --> 01:27:05,326
You take this
into consideration, Harry,

1736
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,429
you take the risk
of embarrassing this court

1737
01:27:08,463 --> 01:27:10,063
and putting it to a level
it has not been

1738
01:27:10,097 --> 01:27:11,733
- since the Dred Scott decision.
- Oh, come on.

1739
01:27:11,766 --> 01:27:13,935
Come on, Bill.
So, you wanna enslave women

1740
01:27:13,968 --> 01:27:15,336
by denying them
their right to privacy.

1741
01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:16,437
Is that it, Byron?

1742
01:27:16,471 --> 01:27:17,438
That is not what I said.

1743
01:27:17,472 --> 01:27:18,740
Well, that's what
you're implying.

1744
01:27:18,773 --> 01:27:19,941
No, it is not what I'm implying.

1745
01:27:19,974 --> 01:27:21,943
Wait, guys, guys.
Stop being so dramatic.

1746
01:27:21,976 --> 01:27:24,512
And you, you're starting to
sound like one of Nixon's boys.

1747
01:27:24,546 --> 01:27:27,247
Don't forget it was JFK
that appointed you.

1748
01:27:27,281 --> 01:27:28,449
Yes, and it was Kennedy
that thought

1749
01:27:28,483 --> 01:27:31,419
abortion was repugnant
to all Americans.

1750
01:27:38,459 --> 01:27:39,727
Here we go again, boys.

1751
01:27:48,268 --> 01:27:50,304
Certainly,
we cannot say that there is

1752
01:27:50,338 --> 01:27:55,577
in the Constitution so stated
the right to an abortion.

1753
01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:58,379
But neither is there stated
the right to travel

1754
01:27:58,413 --> 01:28:01,716
or some other basic rights
that this court has held

1755
01:28:01,749 --> 01:28:05,085
are under the United States
Constitution.

1756
01:28:05,118 --> 01:28:06,988
I suppose that one of
the most important factors

1757
01:28:07,021 --> 01:28:09,791
to consider is,
what rights, if any,

1758
01:28:09,824 --> 01:28:11,726
does the unborn fetus have.

1759
01:28:11,759 --> 01:28:12,961
That is correct.

1760
01:28:12,994 --> 01:28:14,161
I have a question.

1761
01:28:14,194 --> 01:28:16,464
Is it critical to your case
that the fetus

1762
01:28:16,497 --> 01:28:20,501
not be considered a person
under the due process clause?

1763
01:28:20,535 --> 01:28:22,102
It seems to me
that it is critical

1764
01:28:22,135 --> 01:28:25,306
that we prove that this is
a fundamental interest

1765
01:28:25,340 --> 01:28:27,240
on behalf of women.

1766
01:28:27,274 --> 01:28:29,978
That it is a constitutional
right, second...

1767
01:28:30,011 --> 01:28:35,115
Well, would you lose your case
if the fetus were a person?

1768
01:28:35,148 --> 01:28:37,150
Then you would have
a balancing of interests.

1769
01:28:38,953 --> 01:28:40,455
You're already
going to be balancing

1770
01:28:40,488 --> 01:28:42,289
the interest of the mother

1771
01:28:42,323 --> 01:28:45,192
against the interest
of the fetus.

1772
01:28:45,225 --> 01:28:46,928
That is correct, Your Honor.

1773
01:28:46,961 --> 01:28:49,097
If it were established
that the unborn fetus

1774
01:28:49,129 --> 01:28:51,164
is protected
under the Constitution,

1775
01:28:51,198 --> 01:28:53,668
you would have an impossible
case, Mrs. Weddington.

1776
01:28:55,470 --> 01:28:57,839
I would have
a very difficult case.

1777
01:29:01,509 --> 01:29:02,810
It's impossible for me to trace,

1778
01:29:02,844 --> 01:29:04,345
within my allocated time,

1779
01:29:04,379 --> 01:29:08,516
the development of a fetus
from the date of its conception

1780
01:29:08,549 --> 01:29:10,183
to the date of its birth.

1781
01:29:10,217 --> 01:29:12,219
But it's the position
of the State of Texas

1782
01:29:12,252 --> 01:29:13,655
that upon conception,

1783
01:29:13,688 --> 01:29:17,058
we have a human being.

1784
01:29:17,091 --> 01:29:19,661
A person with the concept

1785
01:29:19,694 --> 01:29:22,229
of the Constitution
of the United States

1786
01:29:22,262 --> 01:29:24,197
and that of Texas as well.

1787
01:29:24,231 --> 01:29:27,702
Any person born or naturalized
in the United States hasn't.

1788
01:29:29,169 --> 01:29:32,239
No, that's not the definition
of a person,

1789
01:29:32,272 --> 01:29:33,841
that's the definition
of a citizen.

1790
01:29:33,875 --> 01:29:34,909
It's so fundamental

1791
01:29:34,942 --> 01:29:36,577
that the framers
of the Constitution

1792
01:29:36,611 --> 01:29:39,647
had not even set out
to define it.

1793
01:29:39,681 --> 01:29:43,818
And even Blackstone
was quoted in 1765,

1794
01:29:43,851 --> 01:29:47,155
"This right is inherent
in every individual

1795
01:29:47,187 --> 01:29:50,758
and exists even before
the child is born."

1796
01:29:50,792 --> 01:29:53,226
Is it not true

1797
01:29:53,260 --> 01:29:57,432
or is it that the,
medical profession itself

1798
01:29:57,465 --> 01:30:00,768
is not in agreement
as to when life begins?

1799
01:30:00,802 --> 01:30:03,871
Medically speaking, we would
say that from the chromosomes,

1800
01:30:03,905 --> 01:30:06,708
every potential of anybody
here in this room

1801
01:30:06,741 --> 01:30:09,209
is present at the moment
of conception.

1802
01:30:09,242 --> 01:30:12,880
Right. So, what you're speaking
about is a potential life.

1803
01:30:12,914 --> 01:30:14,082
Yes, sir.

1804
01:30:14,115 --> 01:30:17,351
With which
everyone can agree on.

1805
01:30:17,385 --> 01:30:18,152
Just one moment.

1806
01:30:20,488 --> 01:30:25,359
If you're correct
that the fetus is a person,

1807
01:30:25,393 --> 01:30:28,463
then I suppose the state
would have a great trouble

1808
01:30:28,496 --> 01:30:31,466
permitting an abortion,
wouldn't it?

1809
01:30:31,499 --> 01:30:35,403
This court has been diligent

1810
01:30:35,436 --> 01:30:39,874
in protecting
the rights of minorities.

1811
01:30:39,907 --> 01:30:48,248
And gentlemen, we say
this is a minority,

1812
01:30:50,318 --> 01:30:51,953
a silent minority,

1813
01:30:54,522 --> 01:30:59,093
the true silent minority.

1814
01:31:03,698 --> 01:31:06,033
Who is speaking
for these children?

1815
01:31:09,036 --> 01:31:12,874
Who is counsel
for these children?

1816
01:31:14,876 --> 01:31:17,345
These unborn children,

1817
01:31:20,882 --> 01:31:23,851
whose lives are being taken.

1818
01:31:28,189 --> 01:31:30,057
Where is the safeguard

1819
01:31:32,193 --> 01:31:35,363
of a trial by jury?

1820
01:31:40,701 --> 01:31:42,603
For Roe?

1821
01:31:42,637 --> 01:31:45,339
<i>From the CBS
News headquarters in New York,</i>

1822
01:31:45,373 --> 01:31:47,708
<i>this is the CBS Evening News</i>

1823
01:31:47,742 --> 01:31:51,212
<i>with Walter Cronkite
and Eric Sevareid in New York,</i>

1824
01:31:51,245 --> 01:31:53,147
<i>George Hermann in Washington,</i>

1825
01:31:53,181 --> 01:31:57,018
<i>Leslie Stahl in Washington,
Fred P. Graham in Atlanta,</i>

1826
01:31:57,051 --> 01:32:00,688
<i>Peter Calisher in Paris,
Tom Fenton in Paris,</i>

1827
01:32:00,721 --> 01:32:02,857
<i>Robert Schakne in Des Moines.</i>

1828
01:32:02,890 --> 01:32:06,360
<i>And tonight, a CBS Evening News
special report,</i>

1829
01:32:06,394 --> 01:32:08,229
<i>"The Energy Crisis."</i>

1830
01:32:27,915 --> 01:32:28,816
<i>Good evening.</i>

1831
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:30,151
<i>In a landmark ruling,</i>

1832
01:32:30,184 --> 01:32:33,688
<i>the Supreme Court today
legalized abortions.</i>

1833
01:32:33,721 --> 01:32:35,823
<i>The majority in cases
for Texas and Georgia</i>

1834
01:32:35,857 --> 01:32:38,226
<i>said that the decision
to end a pregnancy</i>

1835
01:32:38,259 --> 01:32:40,995
<i>during the first three months
belongs to the woman</i>

1836
01:32:41,028 --> 01:32:42,964
<i>and her doctor,
not the government.</i>

1837
01:32:52,106 --> 01:32:55,409
The Roe decision allows a woman
to have an abortion at any time,

1838
01:32:55,443 --> 01:32:57,445
not just the first three months.

1839
01:32:57,478 --> 01:32:58,946
Cronkite and the media
lied about that.

1840
01:33:00,982 --> 01:33:03,784
But they said it doesn't have
the same rights as a person.

1841
01:33:03,818 --> 01:33:06,187
Let me ask you,
if you found out today

1842
01:33:06,220 --> 01:33:08,589
that you were pregnant
and I killed you,

1843
01:33:08,623 --> 01:33:11,058
should I go to jail for
murdering one person or two?

1844
01:33:12,426 --> 01:33:13,461
Uh...

1845
01:33:15,096 --> 01:33:18,566
Most states would consider it
a double homicide,

1846
01:33:18,599 --> 01:33:21,235
hence considering
the unborn a person.

1847
01:33:22,803 --> 01:33:25,806
With that logic, why isn't
abortion considered homicide?

1848
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,875
The Supreme Court
allowed the Sierra Club

1849
01:33:27,909 --> 01:33:29,311
to sue
the Walt Disney Mineral Park

1850
01:33:29,344 --> 01:33:31,579
on behalf of inanimate objects.

1851
01:33:31,612 --> 01:33:33,748
Justice Douglas argued

1852
01:33:33,781 --> 01:33:36,250
that trees should be
granted personhood,

1853
01:33:36,284 --> 01:33:39,487
that rivers, lakes,
and even pupfish have rights.

1854
01:33:43,591 --> 01:33:45,327
Somebody read me
the constitutional amendment

1855
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,330
that states that we have the
right to kill an unborn child.

1856
01:33:48,363 --> 01:33:49,463
Sir,

1857
01:33:49,497 --> 01:33:51,866
it was just voted seven to two.

1858
01:33:53,434 --> 01:33:54,969
The justices replaced
the framers' choices

1859
01:33:55,002 --> 01:33:56,971
for personal predilections.

1860
01:33:58,539 --> 01:34:00,508
But we have
a right to privacy.

1861
01:34:01,976 --> 01:34:03,144
Where in the Constitution
does it state

1862
01:34:03,177 --> 01:34:04,145
that we have that right?

1863
01:34:08,716 --> 01:34:11,118
It doesn't,
and even if we did,

1864
01:34:11,152 --> 01:34:13,154
privacy is not
an absolute right,

1865
01:34:13,187 --> 01:34:16,190
so it can always be governed
by other rights.

1866
01:34:16,223 --> 01:34:19,794
But the right to choose
is more important than a fetus.

1867
01:34:19,827 --> 01:34:21,595
Why would you say that?

1868
01:34:21,629 --> 01:34:23,864
A fetus is not a person,
and I am.

1869
01:34:26,901 --> 01:34:28,469
So, what does a fetus become?

1870
01:34:32,573 --> 01:34:34,842
A fetus has the DNA of a person.

1871
01:34:34,875 --> 01:34:36,510
It's created by people.

1872
01:34:36,544 --> 01:34:40,982
Left to nature,
that fetus becomes a person.

1873
01:34:42,583 --> 01:34:44,386
<i>Dr. Taylor,
call the operator, please.</i>

1874
01:34:44,419 --> 01:34:46,355
<i>Dr. Taylor,
call the operator.</i>

1875
01:34:47,922 --> 01:34:49,256
Dr. Nathanson?

1876
01:34:50,825 --> 01:34:52,159
I'm sorry. Can I help you?

1877
01:34:52,193 --> 01:34:54,161
A butchery.

1878
01:34:54,195 --> 01:34:56,197
Excuse me?

1879
01:34:56,230 --> 01:34:59,500
You know
that even a safe abortion

1880
01:34:59,533 --> 01:35:02,203
can make a woman sterile.

1881
01:35:02,236 --> 01:35:03,405
Mildred Jefferson, right?

1882
01:35:03,438 --> 01:35:06,173
Dr. Mildred Jefferson.

1883
01:35:06,207 --> 01:35:07,742
Are you lost?

1884
01:35:07,775 --> 01:35:08,809
Yes.

1885
01:35:08,843 --> 01:35:11,679
Yes. Actually, I am. Very.

1886
01:35:13,180 --> 01:35:15,916
How do you do what you do,
and live in good conscience?

1887
01:35:15,950 --> 01:35:17,051
I have given abortions

1888
01:35:17,084 --> 01:35:18,420
to my friends,

1889
01:35:18,453 --> 01:35:20,921
my colleagues,
even my teachers.

1890
01:35:20,955 --> 01:35:22,923
I've never had
a shred of self-doubt.

1891
01:35:22,957 --> 01:35:25,059
And I've never wavered.

1892
01:35:25,092 --> 01:35:27,061
So, you feel nothing?

1893
01:35:27,094 --> 01:35:31,032
Just a sense of accomplishment
and pride of expertise.

1894
01:35:31,065 --> 01:35:32,401
You see.

1895
01:35:34,135 --> 01:35:39,006
When my girlfriend got pregnant
and I couldn't afford to have

1896
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:43,077
a child,
I not only demanded

1897
01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:47,416
that she terminate the pregnancy
but I also informed her,

1898
01:35:47,449 --> 01:35:50,851
since I was the most skilled
practitioner of the art,

1899
01:35:50,885 --> 01:35:53,754
I myself would do the abortion.

1900
01:35:53,788 --> 01:35:55,256
And I did.

1901
01:35:58,926 --> 01:36:00,661
Are you sure
you wanna do this?

1902
01:36:08,302 --> 01:36:09,471
Doctor...

1903
01:36:09,504 --> 01:36:11,972
If you don't wanna be here,
you can leave.

1904
01:36:34,628 --> 01:36:36,331
On your own child?

1905
01:36:48,676 --> 01:36:50,345
I mean, why do you give life

1906
01:36:50,378 --> 01:36:53,080
to those with no future?

1907
01:36:53,114 --> 01:36:56,617
Aren't you tired
of creating new souls

1908
01:36:56,650 --> 01:36:59,454
that end up with no purpose?

1909
01:36:59,488 --> 01:37:02,491
I mean,
you must be bored, right?

1910
01:37:02,524 --> 01:37:03,492
Or are you just like

1911
01:37:03,525 --> 01:37:04,692
playing games?

1912
01:37:05,860 --> 01:37:07,661
I've killed babies

1913
01:37:07,695 --> 01:37:09,997
for the greater good.

1914
01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:13,368
I've killed babies
in the name of saving women.

1915
01:37:15,202 --> 01:37:18,706
And I've killed babies
because they were unwanted.

1916
01:37:19,974 --> 01:37:21,309
You're a liar!

1917
01:37:21,343 --> 01:37:24,011
You did this,
you led me down this path.

1918
01:37:24,044 --> 01:37:25,347
You didn't want them.

1919
01:37:26,515 --> 01:37:27,748
That's the truth.

1920
01:37:30,485 --> 01:37:31,886
Because you wanna know why?

1921
01:37:31,919 --> 01:37:34,922
I'm not the one who's supposed
to be perfect, you are.

1922
01:37:37,024 --> 01:37:42,296
But I have done my best.
I have worked my hardest.

1923
01:37:42,330 --> 01:37:44,765
I have served humanity.
You've watched me.

1924
01:37:45,866 --> 01:37:46,867
Hm?

1925
01:37:50,938 --> 01:37:53,040
Maybe you're just willing
but not able.

1926
01:37:55,377 --> 01:37:57,445
And so you're just
not omnipotent.

1927
01:37:59,180 --> 01:38:02,584
Or, are you able
and not willing and malevolent?

1928
01:38:05,453 --> 01:38:07,888
I don't think it's either.

1929
01:38:07,922 --> 01:38:13,961
The truth is, you are
neither willing nor able.

1930
01:38:15,262 --> 01:38:17,097
So, why do I need to
call you God?

1931
01:38:28,943 --> 01:38:31,413
Have you seen these
new high-tech ultrasounds?

1932
01:38:31,446 --> 01:38:32,913
<i>In the '70s before Roe,</i>

1933
01:38:32,947 --> 01:38:35,249
<i>no one had this technology.</i>

1934
01:38:35,282 --> 01:38:38,085
<i>Not I, not the courts.</i>

1935
01:38:38,118 --> 01:38:41,956
<i>This would change everything,
especially for me.</i>

1936
01:38:41,989 --> 01:38:44,426
No, but I hear
the new imaging is great.

1937
01:38:44,459 --> 01:38:46,293
You know what,
it helps a lot with accuracy.

1938
01:38:46,328 --> 01:38:47,629
Let's go try it out.

1939
01:39:26,334 --> 01:39:27,602
Are you okay?

1940
01:39:38,112 --> 01:39:39,813
It is a person.

1941
01:39:42,651 --> 01:39:44,619
It's a person.

1942
01:39:50,124 --> 01:39:53,461
God, forgive me.
What have I done?

1943
01:39:54,995 --> 01:39:57,831
I-I'm so sorry, God.

1944
01:39:57,865 --> 01:39:59,833
I'm so sorry.

1945
01:39:59,867 --> 01:40:02,704
Please, I want her back.

1946
01:40:05,407 --> 01:40:07,709
I killed my own daughter.

1947
01:40:23,824 --> 01:40:26,461
Doctor.
Phil McCombs, <i>Washington Post.</i>

1948
01:40:26,494 --> 01:40:27,462
Thank you. Good to see you.

1949
01:40:27,495 --> 01:40:28,663
Thank you
for taking the time.

1950
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:42,209
So, when you take them out,
you don't see anything?

1951
01:40:44,746 --> 01:40:46,080
<i>No, you don't see anything.</i>

1952
01:40:47,881 --> 01:40:49,317
<i>I-I-I mean,</i>

1953
01:40:49,351 --> 01:40:51,852
<i>of all the thousands
of second trimester abortions</i>

1954
01:40:51,885 --> 01:40:54,188
<i>that I've done, I mean,
maybe I've seen</i>

1955
01:40:54,221 --> 01:40:56,190
half a dozen.

1956
01:40:56,223 --> 01:40:58,526
But didn't it bother you
when you did?

1957
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,861
No, not particularly.
It was the end product,

1958
01:41:00,894 --> 01:41:03,063
a lifeless limp thing
lying there.

1959
01:41:03,097 --> 01:41:05,899
They have a human form.

1960
01:41:05,933 --> 01:41:07,369
Oh, absolutely.

1961
01:41:11,740 --> 01:41:14,642
I-I-I'm sorry.
I'm a little bit confused.

1962
01:41:18,278 --> 01:41:22,116
First you said,
"All you see is bloody meat."

1963
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:24,284
Hm-mm.

1964
01:41:24,319 --> 01:41:28,523
But now you're saying
you always knew it was a person.

1965
01:41:28,556 --> 01:41:29,457
So Doctor,

1966
01:41:31,959 --> 01:41:33,093
which one is it?

1967
01:41:58,919 --> 01:41:59,953
I knew all along.

1968
01:42:02,757 --> 01:42:04,291
Life exists at conception.

1969
01:42:06,594 --> 01:42:09,831
I mean, I'd taken part
in over 70,000 abortions.

1970
01:42:09,864 --> 01:42:12,901
I'd seen other sonograms.

1971
01:42:12,933 --> 01:42:16,270
I knew in my heart
what I was doing was wrong.

1972
01:42:16,303 --> 01:42:17,472
And I lied.

1973
01:42:20,642 --> 01:42:22,744
I lied to the world.
I lied to God.

1974
01:42:22,777 --> 01:42:25,212
More importantly.
I lied to me.

1975
01:42:27,348 --> 01:42:28,850
But I kept on killing.

1976
01:42:30,485 --> 01:42:32,654
Until I had the courage
to face the reality

1977
01:42:32,687 --> 01:42:34,656
of the absolute horror
of what I was doing.

1978
01:42:39,894 --> 01:42:41,629
<i>I had been an atheist,</i>

1979
01:42:41,663 --> 01:42:45,165
<i>so my opinions on abortion
were not influenced by religion.</i>

1980
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,736
<i>And when life gave me more than
I could stand, I chose to kneel.</i>

1981
01:43:36,451 --> 01:43:40,388
♪ There's a fortune
In abortion ♪

1982
01:43:40,421 --> 01:43:43,825
♪ Just a twist of the wrist
And you're through ♪

1983
01:43:43,858 --> 01:43:44,926
Oooh!

1984
01:43:44,959 --> 01:43:49,062
♪ The population
Of the nation ♪

1985
01:43:49,096 --> 01:43:52,834
♪ Won't grow
If it's left up to you ♪

1986
01:43:52,867 --> 01:43:57,372
♪ There's a fortune
In abortion ♪

1987
01:43:57,405 --> 01:44:01,442
♪ There's a gold mine
In the sex line ♪

1988
01:44:01,476 --> 01:44:06,213
♪ Only rabbits
Have those habits ♪

1989
01:44:06,246 --> 01:44:10,952
♪ Oh, there's a fortune
In abortion ♪

1990
01:44:10,985 --> 01:44:16,089
♪ You never bother
The future father ♪

1991
01:44:16,123 --> 01:44:20,862
The mass of Negroes,
particularly in the South,

1992
01:44:20,895 --> 01:44:25,466
still breed carelessly
and disastrously.

1993
01:44:27,635 --> 01:44:31,406
The result that the increase
among Negroes,

1994
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,808
more than among whites,

1995
01:44:33,841 --> 01:44:36,611
is that portion
of the population

1996
01:44:36,644 --> 01:44:40,014
least intelligent and fit.

1997
01:44:41,516 --> 01:44:42,717
In our country,
there's been one group

1998
01:44:42,750 --> 01:44:45,386
associated with
reactionary politics,

1999
01:44:45,420 --> 01:44:48,890
behind-the-scenes manipulations,
and backward ideas.

2000
01:44:48,923 --> 01:44:50,290
Wait, not the Catholics again?

2001
01:44:50,325 --> 01:44:51,960
Of course, the Catholics.

2002
01:44:51,993 --> 01:44:53,728
Catholic
and fundamentalist churches

2003
01:44:53,761 --> 01:44:55,930
have constantly
violated the law.

2004
01:44:55,964 --> 01:45:00,401
Violations which breach the wall
separating the church and state.

2005
01:45:00,435 --> 01:45:02,403
<i>The justices cited Larry's book</i>

2006
01:45:02,437 --> 01:45:06,507
<i>seven times in their decision,
citing no other legal historian.</i>

2007
01:45:08,810 --> 01:45:12,313
<i>Jane Roe became known
to the world as Norma McCorvey.</i>

2008
01:45:12,347 --> 01:45:14,415
<i>And when she learned the truth
that having an abortion</i>

2009
01:45:14,449 --> 01:45:17,284
<i>was killing a baby
and not passing a period</i>

2010
01:45:17,318 --> 01:45:22,457
<i>or removing a bunch of cells,
she became pro-life.</i>

2011
01:45:22,490 --> 01:45:26,694
<i>See, the truth is, she herself
never even had an abortion.</i>

2012
01:45:28,195 --> 01:45:29,998
<i>They lied to me.</i>

2013
01:45:30,031 --> 01:45:33,334
<i>I didn't go to the Supreme Court
for a bunch of women.</i>

2014
01:45:33,368 --> 01:45:36,169
Who lied to you?

2015
01:45:36,203 --> 01:45:38,138
<i>Sarah Weddington.</i>

2016
01:45:38,171 --> 01:45:40,475
<i>I asked her if she knew
where to get an abortion</i>

2017
01:45:40,508 --> 01:45:43,111
<i>and she and Linda told me
that they didn't.</i>

2018
01:45:43,143 --> 01:45:45,178
<i>She knew where.</i>

2019
01:45:45,212 --> 01:45:47,815
Could you elaborate?

2020
01:45:47,849 --> 01:45:50,351
<i>Sarah had an abortion
in Mexico.</i>

2021
01:45:50,385 --> 01:45:53,721
<i>They were just looking
for somebody to use.</i>

2022
01:45:53,755 --> 01:45:55,423
Do you feel
what you did was wrong?

2023
01:46:00,528 --> 01:46:02,195
<i>You never had
an abortion, did you? I mean...</i>

2024
01:46:02,229 --> 01:46:04,365
<i>No. No, sir.
I never had an abortion.</i>

2025
01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:05,833
<i>You carried
your child to full term.</i>

2026
01:46:05,867 --> 01:46:07,200
<i>Yes, sir, I did.</i>

2027
01:46:07,234 --> 01:46:08,703
<i>You wanted an abortion.</i>

2028
01:46:08,736 --> 01:46:10,338
<i>Yes, sir, I did.</i>

2029
01:46:10,371 --> 01:46:12,305
<i>And in a sense,
you were angry at one point</i>

2030
01:46:12,340 --> 01:46:14,909
<i>at Sarah Weddington
for not letting you get one</i>

2031
01:46:14,942 --> 01:46:17,177
<i>because it didn't suit
their purposes at that time.</i>

2032
01:46:17,210 --> 01:46:19,313
<i>They needed you
to be pregnant, right?</i>

2033
01:46:19,347 --> 01:46:21,248
<i>They needed their plaintiff
to be pregnant,</i>

2034
01:46:21,281 --> 01:46:22,850
<i>it is exactly right.</i>

2035
01:46:22,884 --> 01:46:26,186
<i>But see, what really was
the tell-in of the whole schmeil</i>

2036
01:46:26,219 --> 01:46:28,923
<i>was the fact that when
Sarah Weddington came out</i>

2037
01:46:28,956 --> 01:46:32,493
<i>with her book, I don't know,
two or three years ago,</i>

2038
01:46:32,527 --> 01:46:34,929
<i>she told in her book
that she had an abortion</i>

2039
01:46:34,962 --> 01:46:37,230
<i>and she went to Mexico.</i>

2040
01:46:37,264 --> 01:46:40,168
<i>And when I sat across that table
at Colombo's Pizza</i>

2041
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,004
<i>here in Dallas, Texas
and I asked her,</i>

2042
01:46:43,037 --> 01:46:44,539
<i>I said, "Sarah, do you know</i>

2043
01:46:44,572 --> 01:46:46,541
<i>where I can go
and get an abortion?"</i>

2044
01:46:46,574 --> 01:46:50,778
<i>And she said, "No."
Well, she lied to me.</i>

2045
01:46:50,812 --> 01:46:52,245
<i>Some justices</i>

2046
01:46:52,279 --> 01:46:53,848
<i>were leaking to the press.</i>

2047
01:46:53,881 --> 01:46:56,216
<i>Some had family members
working for Planned Parenthood.</i>

2048
01:46:56,249 --> 01:46:58,186
<i>Burger and other justices
then changed their vote</i>

2049
01:46:58,218 --> 01:47:01,322
<i>because of public outcry
and family pressure.</i>

2050
01:47:04,058 --> 01:47:05,760
<i>Dr. Mildred Jefferson
became the president</i>

2051
01:47:05,793 --> 01:47:07,528
<i>of National Right to Life,</i>

2052
01:47:07,562 --> 01:47:09,464
<i>and an influence
on President Reagan</i>

2053
01:47:09,497 --> 01:47:10,765
<i>becoming pro-life.</i>

2054
01:47:12,467 --> 01:47:14,769
<i>I produced a documentary</i>
<i>called</i> The Silent Scream

2055
01:47:14,802 --> 01:47:18,238
<i>where 18 days before
you even miss your period</i>

2056
01:47:18,271 --> 01:47:22,376
<i>and realize you're pregnant,
there is a heartbeat.</i>

2057
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:25,747
<i>At ten weeks, when you go
to abort your baby,</i>

2058
01:47:25,780 --> 01:47:28,983
<i>she will actually feel the pain
of having her limbs torn off.</i>

2059
01:47:29,016 --> 01:47:32,086
This is the silent scream

2060
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:36,190
of a child threatened
imminently with extinction.

2061
01:47:52,173 --> 01:47:54,742
<i>♪ I put my hope and trust ♪</i>

2062
01:47:54,776 --> 01:47:58,246
<i>♪ In things
That would not hold ♪</i>

2063
01:47:58,278 --> 01:48:03,117
<i>♪ I built my house
Upon the sinking sand ♪</i>

2064
01:48:05,787 --> 01:48:11,659
<i>♪ And everything I thought
I had under control ♪</i>

2065
01:48:11,692 --> 01:48:16,130
<i>♪ Failed to satisfy and slipped
Right through my hands ♪</i>

2066
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,204
<i>♪ There's an aching
In my bones ♪</i>

2067
01:48:25,473 --> 01:48:30,178
<i>♪ But I know I'm not alone ♪</i>

2068
01:48:32,146 --> 01:48:36,551
<i>♪ I can't do this on my own ♪</i>

2069
01:48:39,053 --> 01:48:45,092
<i>♪ So I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2070
01:48:57,205 --> 01:49:03,377
<i>♪ I thought my only worth
Was in what I could do ♪</i>

2071
01:49:03,411 --> 01:49:07,915
<i>♪ I tried to earn the love
I don't deserve ♪</i>

2072
01:49:10,852 --> 01:49:16,757
<i>♪ I settled for the lie
That it was not enough ♪</i>

2073
01:49:16,791 --> 01:49:21,529
<i>♪ To receive the gift of grace
You freely give ♪</i>

2074
01:49:23,397 --> 01:49:29,770
<i>♪ Oh there's an aching
In my soul ♪</i>

2075
01:49:29,804 --> 01:49:36,577
<i>♪ But I know I'm not alone ♪</i>

2076
01:49:36,611 --> 01:49:41,916
<i>♪ No I can't do this on my own ♪</i>

2077
01:49:44,118 --> 01:49:50,892
<i>♪ So I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2078
01:49:50,925 --> 01:49:59,300
<i>♪ I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2079
01:50:24,326 --> 01:50:29,096
<i>♪ When everything is broken ♪</i>

2080
01:50:31,098 --> 01:50:36,203
<i>♪ Heaven's eyes are open ♪</i>

2081
01:50:38,172 --> 01:50:49,984
<i>♪ I can see the storm clouds
Lift away ♪</i>

2082
01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:57,058
<i>♪ When everything
Seems hopeless ♪</i>

2083
01:50:58,393 --> 01:51:03,831
<i>♪ Your word will be my compass ♪</i>

2084
01:51:05,334 --> 01:51:18,913
<i>♪ I'm standing in the promise
You have made ♪</i>

2085
01:51:20,415 --> 01:51:27,121
<i>♪ So I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2086
01:51:27,154 --> 01:51:33,861
<i>♪ I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2087
01:51:33,894 --> 01:51:40,801
<i>♪ I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪</i>

2088
01:51:40,835 --> 01:51:50,345
<i>♪ I will stand
I will stand in your love ♪♪</i>